Earning Status Credits on Code Shared Flights
Jan 13, 2008 | 12:34 am
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Earning Status Credits on Code Shared Flights
I am a QFF Gold member. I am planning to fly to LAX from PVG (Shanghai) on a flight operated China Eastern Airlines and is code-shared with AA. If I buy the ticket from China Eastern, can I earn status credit and miles for my QFF?
What if I buy the ticket from AA?
What if I buy the ticket from AA?
Jan 13, 2008 | 2:29 am
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There is nothing in the Airline Earning Table ( http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/...m/terms#jump23 ) which indicates that it wouldn't be eligable as long as it is ticketed using the AA flight number. Booked on the China Eastern flight number then no points or status credits would seem to be earned
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Jan 13, 2008 | 2:33 am
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Oh, and welcome to FT and the QF Forum Transport Hub. AA flight number will give you status credits and points, MU flight number will give you nothing.
Jan 13, 2008 | 9:35 am
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I was under the impression the flight had to be a OW flight number AND on OW metal to earn - i.e an AA flight number on non-OW metal would NOT earn...
Also even if the flight does to earn SC - if it's in economy - only Y class earns "full economy" SC - other economy classes are "discount economy".
Also even if the flight does to earn SC - if it's in economy - only Y class earns "full economy" SC - other economy classes are "discount economy".
Jan 13, 2008 | 11:52 am
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I was under the impression the flight had to be a OW flight number AND on OW metal to earn - i.e an AA flight number on non-OW metal would NOT earn...
Also even if the flight does to earn SC - if it's in economy - only Y class earns "full economy" SC - other economy classes are "discount economy".
Also even if the flight does to earn SC - if it's in economy - only Y class earns "full economy" SC - other economy classes are "discount economy".
To explain what I am referring to, note this on the QF website:
http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/...m/terms#jump23
Originally Posted by QF
AA: Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes.
BA: Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes.
*Exception: Travel in Discount Economy between:
- Adelaide, Brisbane, Darwin, Melbourne, Perth or Sydney and London or Frankfurt via Bangkok or Singapore
- Adelaide, Brisbane, Darwin, Melbourne, Perth or Sydney and Bangkok or Singapore
- London or Frankfurt and Bangkok or Singapore
will earn a Base Rate of 1.
CX/KA: Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes.
Excluded: Points and Status Credits are not earned on joint venture flights or Codeshare Flights operated by airlines other than oneworld Alliance Airlines.
AY: Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes.
Excluded: Points and Status Credits are not earned on Codeshare Flights operated by airlines other than oneworld Alliance Airlines and on flights designated AY1001-AY3000 or AY7001-AY9999.
IB: Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes.
Excluded: Points and Status Credits are not earned on Codeshare Flights operated by airlines other than oneworldAlliance Airlines.
JL: Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes.
Excluded: Points and Status Credits are not earned on Codeshare Flights operated by airlines other than oneworldAlliance Airlines.
LA: Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes.
Excluded: Points and Status Credits are not earned on Codeshare Flights operated by airlines other than oneworld Alliance Airlines. Points are not earned in GNOQ classes on domestic flights within Chile, GKLMNOQSV classes on domestic flights within Argentina and GLMNOQSV classes on domestic flights within Peru.
MA: Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes.
Excluded: Points and Status Credits are not earned on Codeshare Flights operated by airlines other than oneworld Alliance Airlines.
RJ: Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes.
Excluded: Points and Status Credits are not earned on Codeshare Flights operated by airlines other than oneworld Alliance Airlines.
For example BA codeshares on SN Brussels Airlines and Flybe, which I feel would be very unlikely to post although there is a strong possibility that a BA coded EI (Aer Lingus) flight would post as EI are still a partner of QF.
Would be interesting to see whether someone can share their experiences of either SN Brussels Airlines or Flybe sectors posting to their QF accounts. It would also be interesting to see whether AA coded TK, SN etc flights would also post. I suspect not, but happy to be corrected on this.
Jan 13, 2008 | 12:37 pm
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I was under the impression the flight had to be a OW flight number AND on OW metal to earn - i.e an AA flight number on non-OW metal would NOT earn...
Also even if the flight does to earn SC - if it's in economy - only Y class earns "full economy" SC - other economy classes are "discount economy".
Also even if the flight does to earn SC - if it's in economy - only Y class earns "full economy" SC - other economy classes are "discount economy".
For economy travel , it would indeed earn at discount rate ( unless in Y ) since it is not an Australian Domestic service
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Jan 13, 2008 | 12:43 pm
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Would be extremely interesting to see if a AA coded China Eastern flight would credit to QF. Personally I doubt whether it would happen.
Jan 14, 2008 | 1:53 am
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I respect what you have stated, however I would like to hear of an actual example. Last time I asked for someone to show a concrete example, I heard nothing.......
Would be extremely interesting to see if a AA coded China Eastern flight would credit to QF. Personally I doubt whether it would happen.
Would be extremely interesting to see if a AA coded China Eastern flight would credit to QF. Personally I doubt whether it would happen.
Jan 14, 2008 | 2:03 am
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If I was on that flight and it didn't credit, Qantas would end up crediting the flight to me based on the T&C's after I complained to them.
It's the same as a Qantas flight on Jal metal (or rather how it used to be before Jal joined OW). I'm yet to fly any AA flight not on AA metal, so can't give a concrete example though.
Jan 14, 2008 | 3:28 am
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A QF flight number on OZ metal gives you status credits, same for other code shares. AA codeshare on CX metal gives you the AA points, not the CX. The only exeptions to this are really funny things like QF flight numbers for German train services etc.
Jan 14, 2008 | 4:36 am
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I hear all of what you are saying and I agree that if you read the T&Cs to the letter it should credit. That said, I have yet to see anyone post practical experience of this happening. That alone speaks for itself.
FWIW, I count QF codesharing on other carriers in a different light as they get a piece of the action.
FWIW, I count QF codesharing on other carriers in a different light as they get a piece of the action.
Jan 14, 2008 | 4:43 am
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I recently queried with QF regarding credit for codeshares and received this response:
Which is where I got the impression that OW marketed, non OW metal flights will NOT credit...
The general rule is that you can earn points for codeshare flights where both of the airlines are members of the oneworld alliance. The reverse also applies, where codeshare flights that are sold with the flight number of – or operated by – an airline that isn’t a oneworld alliance airline or a Qantas Frequent Flyer partner airline, the flight isn’t eligible for Qantas Frequent Flyer points. You can find detailed information on earning points for flights, at the following: http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/...m/terms#jump23
Jan 14, 2008 | 4:43 am
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And so does nobody posting here complaining that it wasn't credited... These types of forums tend to handle more complaints (or unusual activities) over normal happenings. Therefore, I suspect it does credit correctly as I can't find complaints that it doesn't credit correctly.
Jan 14, 2008 | 4:46 am
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Note the "general rule" clause... There are plenty of examples where Qantas codeshares with non OneWorld airlines and the points post correctly... Now if you were talking about Cathay, then yes I agree. AA, I don't agree.
Jan 14, 2008 | 6:09 am
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And so does nobody posting here complaining that it wasn't credited... These types of forums tend to handle more complaints (or unusual activities) over normal happenings. Therefore, I suspect it does credit correctly as I can't find complaints that it doesn't credit correctly.