In the unlikely event that it didn't post, a call to QF customer service will fix the problem ; QF is very good at honouring the Terms and Conditions even if they are not what they meant them to be

I cannot see there being any issue with an AA codeshare on China Easterm since , if there were restrictions on codeshare eligability, it would be in the T&C

Dave

Sorry, but I think you're wrong here. The GENERAL rule for the QFF program is that OneWorld flights must be marketed AND operated by OneWorld carriers (certainly the case for the majority of OneWorld airline partners in the program). HOWEVER, there are numerous examples of QF having a deeper relationship with AA and BA, and subsequently offering greater QFF perks when flying on AA and BA (and QF, of course) - from minimum mileage guarantee to status bonus to the lower-cost partner awards for AA/BA compared to CX/IB etc. I think that crediting points/status credits for AA/BA/QF flights regardless of operating carrier is simply a further example of this special relationship.

As I keep stating, happy to agree that the T&Cs could be interpreted this way, but I would like to hear from someone who has seen a flight with a BA or AA code but operated by a non-QF partner actually credit to QF. So far, despite several threads on this topic over the years, nobody has managed to provide such proof.

Flybe has taken over many BA domestic routes recently since the BA decided to get rid of BA Connect. Has anybody manage to get any of these flights which BA decided to retain a codeshare ops on to credit to their QF membership? There must be a QF'er out there who has taken a Flybe service on a BA code shortly after this was announced..... If somebody can answer yes, then your assumption is correct, although I suspect it is unlikely. More than happy to be corrected as this would be an added benefit to me especially since several UK based franchises, particularly Loganair are going shortly and this would enable me to continue to earn SCs and miles on any sectors I take when they go across as I understand BA will continue to codeshare on these services.

Finally, whilst the BA/QF relationship is tight, it is certainly nowhere near as tight as it was during the Rod Eddington years.

Those of you who think a BA coded flight operated by Flybe should be encouraging our own Spotwelder to take the flight and credit it is QF.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9079078

Will be interesting to see the results should be choose to accept the mission.

Has anyone actually just asked QFFF for clarification? :-)

Also, if you say put in your QF number and it *doesn't* post, can you then just go to AA.com and fill in a "missing miles" request and have it post automatically?

Or would AA register that the flight had posted somewhere (albeit for 0 miles/0 SC) - and therefore your claim would fail?

Coming late to this thread, but I take a similar viewpoint to Traveloguy. The "operated by OW" proviso makes me think that if it is not OW metal then SC's are unlikely.

Where does it state in the T&Cs that SCs are only earned on OW Operated flights?

It states in rule 18

In rule 18.1.3 (a) , it states that certain flights are ineligable and to see the Airline Earning Table. In the Airline Earning Table it clearly states what flights are ineligable for earning , for example in Royal Jordanian where it states "Excluded: Points and Status Credits are not earned on Codeshare Flights operated by airlines other than oneworld™ Alliance Airlines"

There is no exclusion listed for AA, in fact for AA it clearly states "Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes."

Why is there a desire to assume that the T&Cs are incorrect; even if the T&Cs do not match with what QF intended, I know from 1st hand experience, that when raised they will honour the terms as written

Dave

However your argument centres around what is not there rather than what is written there which I feel is very shaky ground.

That said, it might be worth putting in a nicely worded e-mail to QF to clarify the matter. Personally I feel the Flybe example I listed above would be a good one to go with as so many BA flights went across to Flybe last year when they took over BA Connect's operations.

There is no shaky ground at all

I am taking exactly what is written in the T&Cs and can see nothing shaky about it. If the T&Cs cannot be used as the basis of what is and what is not eligable, what can

All that would happen on a call to QFF is that the person would read the T&Cs

Starting from the top


which leads to

It quite clearly states that earning is based on the flight number of a OW or Partner airlines subject to exclusions of 9.4

lists the excluded flights ; none of b-j apply in this case

(a) clearly states that points are earned unless the Airline Earning Table has them excluded

The Airline earning table has no exclusions for AA codeshares

I do not see how there is any ambiguity in the T&C as to whether the flights are eligable under the rules of the programme

Dave

There is no shaky ground. Being UK based, you have a good opportunity to test this out yourself...

Fair call, although unlikely to be in a position to until Q3 or Q4 so could be quite a wait!

As a similar example my KA metal flight PEK-HKG on a CX flight number did not credit to AA.

This is not a similar issue since the AAdvantage rules are very different to QFF

In the AA rules for CX earning it does say

"Cathay Pacific codeshare flights operated by any oneworld Alliance member airline are eligible for mileage accrual when purchasing an eligible fare."

so by implication codeshare flights on non OW do not earn miles

Dave