Originally Posted by
Traveloguy
However your argument centres around what is not there rather than what is written there which I feel is very shaky ground.
That said, it might be worth putting in a nicely worded e-mail to QF to clarify the matter. Personally I feel the Flybe example I listed above would be a good one to go with as so many BA flights went across to Flybe last year when they took over BA Connect's operations.
There is no shaky ground at all
I am taking exactly what is written in the T&Cs and can see nothing shaky about it. If the T&Cs cannot be used as the basis of what is and what is not eligable, what can
All that would happen on a call to QFF is that the person would read the T&Cs
Starting from the top
Originally Posted by T&C
9.1.2 A Member may earn Points only in relation to:
(a) Eligible Flights taken after the Member's enrolment date and up to 30 days prior to that date;
'Eligible Flight' has the meaning given in clause 9.3.1;
which leads to
Originally Posted by T&C
9.3.1 Subject to clauses 9.3.2 and 9.4, Points for air travel may be earned only for paid travel on regular scheduled flights where a Qantas flight number (or the flight number of any oneworldTM Alliance Airline or Airline Partner not excluded under clause 9.4) is entered on the itinerary ("Eligible Flight").
9.3.2 For the purposes of earning Points, Status Credits and the Minimum Points Guarantee, Eligible Flights exclude a flight on a Qantas aircraft, where another airline's flight number is entered on the ticket, unless that flight has been specified by Qantas as an Eligible Flight.
9.3.3 Points may be earned for each Flight Segment travelled on Eligible Flights by a member. The number of points earned is calculated using the shortest distance on the surface of the globe between the origin and destination of the Flight Segment, regardless of any intermediate stops.
It quite clearly states that earning is based on the flight number of a OW or Partner airlines subject to exclusions of 9.4
Originally Posted by T&C
9.4 Points Are Not Earned on All Flights
9.4.1 Points are not earned for travel on:
(a) flights or booking classes that are excluded, as specified in the Airline Earning Table;
(b) infant fares unless travelling in their own paid seat;
(c) charter flights;
(d) freighter flights;
(e) free tickets, including tickets issued as Award Flights or rewards, including through other award programs;
(f) travel industry rebated tickets;
(g) competition prize tickets;
(h) transport other than air transport unless specified by Qantas;
(i) tickets acquired at an auction; or
(j) tickets which are subject to any specific provisions excluding the accumulation of Points.
lists the excluded flights ; none of b-j apply in this case
(a) clearly states that points are earned unless the Airline Earning Table has them excluded
The Airline earning table has no exclusions for AA codeshares
I do not see how there is any ambiguity in the T&C as to whether the flights are eligable under the rules of the programme
Dave