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Old May 16, 2007 | 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by serfty
One other issue that may be important for some, on QF 744 flights the Business Class 'self-service' bar is downstairs!
I'm on a 3 class 744 from LAX -MEL & in the UD. I'm gonna try for row 16 at check-in. On the return BNE-LAX it is a 2 class 744 & I'm also in the UD. Think after reading this I'll move downstairs. Seat Guru indicates row 1 is great, but the bulkhead & close distance to the other two seats on this row are troubling. Row 2 or 3 look ok. Any thoughts on these seats?
BTW just where is the self service bar downstairs?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 5:18 pm
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I'm 6' and found 1A to be fine on 2-class 744's.

With the way bulkhead is designed, IMHO it actually improves the seating.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 7:48 pm
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Originally Posted by MacExtreme
I also prefer the more private atmosphere of the upper deck on QF.
Interesting that you find the upper deck more private. I find the opposite. I have seen very few QF flights where the upper deck is not 100% full (22 passengers on 3-class or 24 passengers on 2-class), and I have seen few flights where the lower deck is 100% full. So if I am not flying on a full flight, I find the lower density of passengers and the wider cabin provides a feel of openness and being on a large aircraft rather then feeling like the ceiling is curved and low and I am squashed into what feels like a 737 cabin with nice seats.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 12:03 am
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I have to be honest, I have never sat in downstairs J, only Y downstairs and J upstairs. Your points are interesting, and also the previous one about travelling alone and being in the F seat to avoid the middle passenger going past you to get to the aisle, as they are likely to be travelling with the person sitting in D. This all makes sense. My son is booked on QF10 SIN MEL next year. I would think this flight would normally be pretty full, but the "downstairs" point of view is starting to make sense.

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Old May 17, 2007 | 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by serfty
I'm 6' and found 1A to be fine on 2-class 744's.

With the way bulkhead is designed, IMHO it actually improves the seating.
Thanks!
1A,1B are open and that is where we are moving.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 11:40 pm
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Originally Posted by MacExtreme
I have to be honest, I have never sat in downstairs J, only Y downstairs and J upstairs. Your points are interesting, and also the previous one about travelling alone and being in the F seat to avoid the middle passenger going past you to get to the aisle, as they are likely to be travelling with the person sitting in D. This all makes sense. My son is booked on QF10 SIN MEL next year. I would think this flight would normally be pretty full, but the "downstairs" point of view is starting to make sense.

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And after saying all I did about upper deck vs lower deck, I have pre-selected 16K for MEL-LHR. But 16K on a 3-class config is the only upper deck seat I like. 16A is better on the 2-class config. If I can't get that seat, then I was happy with the 24F I had as a backup. But of course I hope to be in Zone A on that flight anyway, freeing up 16K for some fortunate soul who asks nicely at check-in .
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Old May 18, 2007 | 1:50 am
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D'oh!! Based on your recommendations, I have just changed a seat request SIN-MEL from 17A to 25F. It's for my son, who doesn't like bulkhead seats, and prefers to be in the middle of any cabin. I see your point that 16K would be the best seat upstairs, but I guess you need status to get that. I think the aisle seat downstairs, with immediate access to the aisle, and increased chance of being next to an empty seat, will work out just fine!
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Old May 20, 2007 | 10:32 pm
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Originally Posted by MacExtreme
D'oh!! Based on your recommendations, I have just changed a seat request SIN-MEL from 17A to 25F. It's for my son, who doesn't like bulkhead seats, and prefers to be in the middle of any cabin. I see your point that 16K would be the best seat upstairs, but I guess you need status to get that. I think the aisle seat downstairs, with immediate access to the aisle, and increased chance of being next to an empty seat, will work out just fine!
Yes, only QF Platinum or Chairmans Lounge status can request to be pre-allocated row 16 on 744 aircraft. My preference would be for 25F over 17A.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by NM
Yes, only QF Platinum or Chairmans Lounge status can request to be pre-allocated row 16 on 744 aircraft. My preference would be for 25F over 17A.
I had 16A pre selected the other day, and I was given 3F instead (3 class 744) .

If the UD is the preference, I'd suggest seats towards the rear of the cabin. There is less wind noise (certainly an issue for row 11) and you'll be off the plane earlier. Also, you can easily grab a passing FA to get another drink whereas those at the front of the cabin keep missing out on drinks because those at the back keep asking for top-ups.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 2:23 pm
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One other thought. If I burn some miles for an upgrade request from J to F SIN-MEL, and my son has a special meal request, it may come to pass that the upgrade is awarded too late to arrange the special meal for the F seat. So, either he will be given the J special meal, or offered the standard F meal.
How strict is QF about serving meals "from the wrong cabin"?
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Old May 22, 2007 | 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by MacExtreme
One other thought. If I burn some miles for an upgrade request from J to F SIN-MEL, and my son has a special meal request, it may come to pass that the upgrade is awarded too late to arrange the special meal for the F seat. So, either he will be given the J special meal, or offered the standard F meal.
How strict is QF about serving meals "from the wrong cabin"?
I've heard from a number of people in QF that they won't give Op-Ups where there's a special meal request. How this works for miles upgrades I'm not sure, but if it were me I would remove the special meal request.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 12:06 am
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that's a very good point. It's only a 7 hour overnight flight anyway, and there's bound to be something he can snack on in F. I'll cancel the special meal request. If he doesn't get the upgrade, he'll have some spare points in his account. Is it correct to say that using QF points on domestic flights is poor value?
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Old May 23, 2007 | 2:22 am
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Originally Posted by MacExtreme
Is it correct to say that using QF points on domestic flights is poor value?
Upgrading on a 4-5 hr transcontinental is very good value - especially if you can get an international configuration aircraft. As for a 1 hr SYD-MEL flight, yes, its not worth it.
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