fly747first

QF is just a very inefficient and poorly ran airline.

Some discussion points:
- took hefty losses for them to realize that 767-300s aren't exactly helping them?!?!?!?!
- if CX can't manage to sell F between HKG and SYD, what makes you think you can QF? Get those remaining 4-class 744s out of service and dump them
- why not try to see if EK is interested in PER - SIN? EK is a fierce competitor and can help QF against its rivals
- overall, instead of adopting an "all is nearly lost attitude," focus on the experience and excellent safety record that QF has and advertise it accordingly, retrain cabin crews (many of them have a serious attitude problem), and launch mileage promos on domestic routes that V Australia will have a harder time matching... after all QF's slogan is "Spirit of Australia" not "Spirit of Defeat"

slickalick

Perhaps I missed it in the linked document, however, where does it state the new about suspension of Jetstar growth in Asia - i assume this means HK and Japan operations?

perthite

It's on page 8 of the attached document. In other places they have stated that there will be know new growth at Jetstar Asia until conditions improve.

seat_4D

It is hardly saurprising, if they tossed PER-HKG a year or so back why would they keep PER-SIN, afterall what PER resident would have a need to fly their national carrier to Asia what with the goold and iron ore and such nonsense that drives our economy.....

3x EK services a day, 2 x CX, 3 x SQ and not a single QF service come 12 months time, lovely really....

danger

In fact I understand SQ has four daily services.

As for 12 months, the last regular PER-SIN-PER will operate on 12 May with just a token smattering of services in the July school holidays.

Blackcloud

Is there a QP in the PER international terminal?
With no QF flights left, unless they bring back the PER-AKL sector I doubt they will keep it open rather than sell it to someone and use it as a contract lounge.

Isochronous

The 787s are needed to bring down the cost base.

BTW, will the A330 reconfig include PE? PE is a big winner for QF.

grov

With Emirates possibly announcing 380s into Perth soon, Qatar introducing 787s to Europe and CX flying out of Perth to everywhere with the best Biz class seat, who's going to miss Qantas? I'm more concerned that once again, there's a possibility the transcon routes to SYD and MEL go back to uncomfortable Biz seats. I called QF an Indian Giver in the past and I still think the term applies.

midkemia

With the unions starting to talk industrial action will this put people off making future bookings with QF? Or will the fear of another lockout make the Unions think again and back off. Despite what people think of AJ (yes he does deserve part of the blame) the lockout situation was one of his smartest moves. Took the fight to the unions head on.

seat_4D

There is an unispiring QP with itinerant opening hours and restricted fare, kind of like the Kalgoorlie QP!

Perhaps SQ will take it over and get out of their hovel, and QF pax will be accomodated in the far nicer surrounds of the EK lounge.

Himeno

Not quite as bad as I was expecting. I had guessed at the 747 retirements with Asian sectors being replaced by 330s (though no mention of the NRT route?).
I am surprised by the last 8 380s being deferred again. Hadn't they already been deferred to 2016+?
I assume QFi paid for the 787's that JQ use?
Any more info on the QF9/10 re timing? Will this be a return to the old QF29/30/31/32 times? Meaning ~6 hours on the ground at LHR instead of ~18 and a lunch time departure instead of late evening.

Still, reading letters to the editor in the papers over the last week makes me shocked at just how wrong people are.

With the 767's going, I guess they'll drop QF3/4 and make JQ1/2 daily.

jozdemir

Nothing specific about the retiming of QF9/10 yet, it just said that it would reduce the time on the ground for the aircraft.

QF 3/4 is actually getting an A330 in place of the 767 so that's still staying thus far.

Globaliser

The obvious alternatives would be to move the departure from MEL until closer to midnight, or to move the departure from LHR to about lunchtime. But I can't see how doing something of both would easily work. So we could get a partial adoption of the old times.

I expect that in part this will depend on what else they can use the aircraft for using the 10-ish extra hours this will free up in every rotation. Unfortunately, I think the flights are just a fraction too long to allow the aircraft to rotate on the route every 48 hours.

Traveloguy

The 767 announcement is a little odd as they still have 16 of them, so they are a major component of the airline whether we like them or not. Considering they are not being replaced, what aircraft is going to fly these routes?

ANstar

Let me guess the LHR-MEL flights will be retimed and not be as attractive... then in 12 months they will cut them.