LOLABUNNY

I didn't know that but for those of us who do remember the days of the inherited TN A300'S and how it took them forty minutes to turn them around.This is nothing new.I am a little surprised though to hear we are going back to the era before the A300 and later 767 existed domestically this time around though with 737-800's.

Himeno

Currently
QF1 arrive LHR 0620
QF9 arrive LHR 0510
QF2 depart LHR 2115
QF10 depart LHR 2215
Giving 2 aircraft ~16 hours on the ground

Using the old QF29/30 slots would give:
QF1 arrive LHR 0620
QF10 depart LHR 1220
QF9 arrive LHR 1330
QF2 depart LHR 2115
resulting in 1 aircraft at LHR for 6 hours and the second for 8 hours.

using those times for LHR would give:
QF9
MEL-DXB 0020-0745
DXB-LHR 0920-1330

QF10
LHR-DXB 1220-2315
DXB-MEL 0100-2140

lokijuh

If happy to give up the connections at the Australian end (ie no connections from 2140) that would actually make a lot of sense for connections from the wave of EK flights leaving Europe early afternoon, arriving into DXB before midnight. Currently they do not connect that well to MEL (ie connect to 0300 departure that goes via KUL), so this could be a real winner.

Himeno

How did they handle connections in MEL with LHR-MEL (QF30) arrived at 8pm? Not many possible I-D connections available for an 8pm arrival either.

lokijuh

They didn't I guess, which may be one reason for its failure. IIRC it connected in HKG to a SYD day-flight for at least some of the time it was operating.

I see the big difference between the this idea for QF10 and the original QF30 is the feed it could have from EK in DXB, probably making it enough to just service MEL without needing to send traffic on to other destinations.

(list of generally eastbound flights that arrive into DXB between 10pm and midnight on EK is huge, includes IKA, CDG, DUS, LED, GVA, HAM, ZRH, NCE, FRA, DAR, CPH, MUC, DME, FCO, VIE, JFK, TUN, GRU, KWI, NBO, ARN, WAW, ATH and if you pushed it back to 0130, you could also probably pick up arrivals between 0000 and 0030, including RUH, VCE, BHX, AMS, MAD, JED, DUB, NCL, CAI, MAN, GLA) At the moment MEL bound pax on these flights have to wait until 0300, then transit KUL enroute for a rather inhospitable 2 am arrival

Himeno

QF29/30 also connected in HKG to BNE and PER flights, until those flights were retimed a few months before they dumped the LHR-HKG sector.

Kiwi Flyer

You're assuming they keep the same aircraft for MEL-LHR and LHR-MEL, and SYD-LHR and LHR-SYD.

A later arrival of MEL-LHR and earlier departure for LHR-MEL could be combined with switching aircraft over at LHR. The aircraft that flew SYD-LHR then does LHR-MEL and the one that flew MEL-LHR then does LHR-SYD.

Globaliser

Yes, sorry - lokijuh pointed out my error very quickly!

Globaliser

For anyone who hasn't seen it on the news thread, mayodave posted this link to an SMH article:-

serfty

The article loses an immediate 50% credibility since the image of the graph encompasses far more than AJ's years at the helm.

DH188

Ooh, that's a bit harsh.
You might equally say they were being selective if they hadn't shown the preceding years.

serfty

Oh ... there's more to it than that, see my post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qanta...l#post22445683

(And consider the regular referral to Dixon in the article)

perthite

So? The article is about how Qantas has lost its way. Qantas losing its way predates Alan Joyce.

savitar

My 5c here is that Qantas simply does not reward / look after its frequent flyers. Yes I know there are many here who completely (and aggressively) disagree but the occasional acknowledgement that I have travelled hundreds of thousands of miles with them would do wonders for my $$$ to go to them for my travel. As it stands I will go with anyone other than Qantas for my $$$ if I have the choice.

Qantas is way too rigid with their policies and therefore as a paying customer I don't feel like they really care about my custom unless it suits them...Their rivals have better luggage allowances on competing routes, offer better acknowledgement of frequent flyers and in many situations are cheaper....

Yes I also get that many US based airlines have gone under as they were way too generous with their upgrades / offerings but in this paying customers view, Qantas is too far the other way.

Traveloguy

I think it makes sense to include the GD years, especially as he was setting the airline up for PE. AJ was effectively the poison pill.

Perhaps those same PE stooges will make a 3rd attempt?