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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:12 am
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Welcome to FT & a great first post which I agree 100%. I also no longer fly if I can help it. After being at the airport 5 days a week & observing what goes on I do not wish to subject my self to it.
I've flown enough qualify for status next year already. I travel for business, but will curtail it wherever necessary, same with any personal travel to see family, etc.

The pain of dealing with the the airlines, passengers, airports and TSAs nonsense is overwhelming.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by !TSA No Play!
We plan on going full tilt with it sometime next year meaning there will be TSOs in the sterile area beyond the checkpoint at all times.


Your employer at their best, finding new ways to pi** off the flying public with their window dressing, hassle filled rules

TSA?
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by GoingAway
I've flown enough qualify for status next year already. I travel for business, but will curtail it wherever necessary, same with any personal travel to see family, etc.

The pain of dealing with the the airlines, passengers, airports and TSAs nonsense is overwhelming.
We do a LOT more teleconference meetings, partly because of the increase in airfares, and partly because of the hassle associated with TSA.

The airline industry is heading towards a massive collapse and the TSA keeps thinking of new ways to infuriate the flying public, between the cutbacks by the airlines, the increase in fares, and now TSA with yet another one of their assinine rules, I wonder how much longer the industry can last before it collapses completly

I wonder if any TSA management, esp upper management evey pay attention or lurk on this forum?, You do a DISservice to the people you profess to protect.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by PTravel
Good god, are you serious? What is going on in this country? It's now a breach of security protocol simply to mention that there will be gateside interrogation . . . uh . . . screening? Does TSO have it's own Gestapo?

"The first rule of TSA is you don't talk about TSA"
I wasn't talking about the "gateside interrogation"... I was speaking of the new policies (SOP) that the TSA is going to implement, but they are not out in the public yet. Once they are public knowledge, there is nothing wrong with talking about them.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by Cee
I wasn't talking about the "gateside interrogation"... I was speaking of the new policies (SOP) that the TSA is going to implement, but they are not out in the public yet. Once they are public knowledge, there is nothing wrong with talking about them.
Okay, I misunderstood. Can you tell us this: are we going to hate them?
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by Cee
the new policies (SOP) that the TSA is going to implement
Uh Oh

Heaven help us all
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:08 am
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As I said earlier, I bear no harsh feelings toward you personally (unless you are one of the rude and incompetent TSA employees I have had to deal with) but your employer is one I would rank near the top of places and things I can honestly say I HATE
I hope most of us non-TSAers here can say this. I make it a point to be friendly and polite to TSOs. Why? Because that's common decency. Well, not really. It's because it makes my life easier.

The problem is that I have to fight myself to separate politeness from unnecessary cooperation with absurd rules and demands. It's almost always possible to make a stink while staying polite. It's easy for people (TSOs, for example) to mentally blow off an uncooperative passenger that's rude, loud, and/or obnoxious. It's much harder if the passenger is unfailingly polite and respectful.

Sometimes TSOs give me delayed replies-in-kind to my "Have a nice day," which indicates to me that my politeness wasn't expected.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by Cee
I wasn't talking about the "gateside interrogation"... I was speaking of the new policies (SOP) that the TSA is going to implement, but they are not out in the public yet. Once they are public knowledge, there is nothing wrong with talking about them.
I'm sure you can give us a hint - or perhaps PM (email) the details to a trusted fellow FT who can post them on behalf of all FT member screeners to ensure full anonymity.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by PTravel
Okay, I misunderstood. Can you tell us this: are we going to hate them?
I am quite sure that no matter what they are, you will hate them. You will find a reason to hate them.

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I'm sure you can give us a hint - or perhaps PM (email) the details to a trusted fellow FT who can post them on behalf of all FT member screeners to ensure full anonymity.
It was posted on here for a day or two...then the whole thread disappeared and so did SMFTSO. I aint gonna risk my job.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
I'm sure you can give us a hint - or perhaps PM (email) the details to a trusted fellow FT who can post them on behalf of all FT member screeners to ensure full anonymity.
It's likely the liquid change which will be left to TSO discretion which we all know works oh, so well.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by Cee
I am quite sure that no matter what they are, you will hate them. You will find a reason to hate them.
Well, that's probably true.

Seriously, I should add that, with the rare and very notable exception, I find most of the TSOs I encounter to be polite, pleasant, efficient and professional. The problem isn't you folks in the field, and I have no problem with you doing th job you were hired to do. It's those who set the policies which, I believe with all my heart, make a negligible contribution to the safety and security of flying, but, more and more, are not merely annoying and intrusive but transgress constitutional limitations on government power.

I aint gonna risk my job.
Please don't. We value the contributions to FT from you and the other TSA folks who are kind enough to post here.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by Cee
I am quite sure that no matter what they are, you will hate them. You will find a reason to hate them
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by Cee
...It was posted on here for a day or two...then the whole thread disappeared and so did SMFTSO. I aint gonna risk my job.
I've been away for a few days so I missed it. How can a thread completely vanish?

Can anyone post the details of what they recollect from the thread? If an insider sends me an email, you probably know by now that my identity is well concealed, and I will not disclose the screen-name or email of whoever sends me the details if asked - and the email will be deleted immediately once I copy out the meat of the SOP change details.

I think y'all can probably guess how I would respond to an email or other contact from the TSA hierarchy demanding to know where I received my information.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
I've been away for a few days so I missed it. How can a thread completely vanish?

Can anyone post the details of what they recollect from the thread? If an insider sends me an email, you probably know by now that my identity is well concealed, and I will not disclose the screen-name or email of whoever sends me the details if asked - and the email will be deleted immediately once I copy out the meat of the SOP change details.

I think y'all can probably guess how I would respond to an email or other contact from the TSA hierarchy demanding to know where I received my information.
You're an attorney, right? Just claim privilege from a client consultation. Seriously.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:28 am
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You're an attorney, right? Just claim privilege from a client consultation. Seriously.
An attorney? No Do I write like one? I better fix that
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