TSA restarting gate screening
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Can we create a list of airports and concourses where these gate screens are occurring right now?
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If they take my 2-3 liters of water I purchase after passing thru security each trip, I will be calling a LEO to the scene. That is theft and nothing but!!
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The policy I always used at the gate was not to look at them. If you make eye contact, they've got you.
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I completely forgot about that. Man, I'd be ripped if I got pulled aside after paying extra. I hope Southwest bills the TSA for all of the refunds that they have to issue.
The policy I always used at the gate was not to look at them. If you make eye contact, they've got you.
Mike
The policy I always used at the gate was not to look at them. If you make eye contact, they've got you.
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in feb. or march I was gate screened at ORD at or near B5 on a TED flt. to PHX. I always buy a bottle of soda when I fly TED and it was clearly visible on the outside of my carryon. nothing was said about it.
I was more than p----d off about the stupidity of this experience!
I was more than p----d off about the stupidity of this experience!
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Pretty much. The ADASP is a duty that TSO's volunteer to do...
The first person I picked to pick on had been stuck at the airport since the previous day (flight cancelled due to bad weather). She was surprisingly upbeat about being picked for additional screening ... I think she was glad to have someone to rant to!
My second victim was part of a family taking their kid on a Make-A-Wish Foundation vacation ... oy!
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Actually, yes it is. And I'm being serious. Obviously you can't grow something but there is a security hole that, with a little planning and time, would grant you very easy access to just about anything that is carry-on size. The average person wouldn't use it; however, the type of person that the TSA claims it is trying to stop would certainly use it. And I'm not telling them something that they don't already know.
This is not to say that I support gate screening or TSA in general. I'm just pointing out that yes, you can go through security without a prohibited item and still board a plane with a prohibited item. Not including liquids purchased airside. Although that should give you a clue what i'm talking about.
This is not to say that I support gate screening or TSA in general. I'm just pointing out that yes, you can go through security without a prohibited item and still board a plane with a prohibited item. Not including liquids purchased airside. Although that should give you a clue what i'm talking about.
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Customers must to show the obtain boarding pass & ID, too. Before passengers is allows onboard the aircraft. If someone who gotten misidentification match but, agents will let's someone need go to secondary screening. They will wanding you & search the carryon bags, too.
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they got the propoganda for gate screening on the site, we're all for it!
Well per the website, and their interview with passengers, its OK "Anything that makes us safer, I'm all for it"
http://mfile.akamai.com/25703/wmv/ts...g_at_gates.asx
http://mfile.akamai.com/25703/wmv/ts...g_at_gates.asx
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So you're saying these "random" checks are actually "We don't like the way that guy looks" checks? Real random checks should be "We will check 30% of people. As the person comes through, the PDA I have will spit out a YES or NO based on a random number."
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Well per the website, and their interview with passengers, its OK "Anything that makes us safer, I'm all for it"
http://mfile.akamai.com/25703/wmv/ts...g_at_gates.asx
http://mfile.akamai.com/25703/wmv/ts...g_at_gates.asx
methinks they picked the wrong pax to interview. f/'ters would be much better than kettles, n'est pas?
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Why not deputize one FA on every flight to randomly search pax after they've boarded? @:-)
While providing much-needed extra income to the designated FA (a useful federal subsidy of sorts to the airlines), it would be much more efficient than the pre-boarding search, i.e. "Let me help you get that bag into the overhead, Sir, once I've finished rummaging through it."
Many domestic FAs are already well qualified to identify suspicious behavior, such as pax in F who ask for pre-departure beverages or who want their coats hung up, or especially UA flyers who ask if Ch 9 will be on.
While providing much-needed extra income to the designated FA (a useful federal subsidy of sorts to the airlines), it would be much more efficient than the pre-boarding search, i.e. "Let me help you get that bag into the overhead, Sir, once I've finished rummaging through it."
Many domestic FAs are already well qualified to identify suspicious behavior, such as pax in F who ask for pre-departure beverages or who want their coats hung up, or especially UA flyers who ask if Ch 9 will be on.


