well, that is good to know and thanks . now just wondering who will be enforcing it

carry-on vs checking? That is being controlled by the airlines. They included in the original notifications they'd be putting people near the security areas (where its one airline for the line, not sure what they'd do someplace like IAD where everyone converges) to tell people to check luggage it they're clearly over carry on limitations

ps this is not to say that TSOs won't take it upon themselves to turn people back of course

At the entrance (right before security) to the UA gates at LGA last Sunday, before you had to show your ID and BP to the TSA ossifer, there were two people JUST checking BP's AND enforcing the two-bag rule. More than two - no go.

I have not encountered any gate screeing at the following airports since this was initially posted: ORD, MSY, LGA, CMH, IND, DTW, MKE, SFO, PHX, DEN and LAX.

Given that the 2-bag rule IS federally mandated, I can't see any reason that the TSA would avoid sticking it's nose in the airline's business.

BOHICA.

Technically, the FAA allows a third bag if it's camera gear. I've had to point that out to several non-TSA ID checkers in the past, as well as a few TSA agents (one guy I actually argued with for a few minutes; he walked up to me and said, "Someone needs to talk to you about carry-ons," to start a conversation, apparently; he refused to believe the FAA has rules allowing exemptions for camera gear, but as I wasn't even at the checkpoint yet, I walked away from the argument).

And I've had to point it out to one ramp agent for UA who felt it necessary, when I gate-checked my rollaboard for a EMB-120 flight, to tell me I had more bags than I was allowed (the "extra" was a very small--purse-sized, in fact--camera bag with two small lenses in it, on that particular flight, in addition to my laptop bag + 18" rollaboard).

But I carry a printout from the FAA site and one from the TSA indicating the exemption, and have never had to show it (yet).

Geez - don't give em any ideas

exerda, I am trying to find the FAA & TSA exemption info so I can print them out - can't find them.
Would you be able/willing to post links to those exemptions?

Thanks!

Care to give a link to this policy? It would be quite helpful if you've already found and printed it out. But of course, even if the TSA and FAA allow it, the airlines themselves have final say.

It doesn't matter what policies you lug around, even when the opportunity to resolve a dispute with the pigs comes up, you will be told that the policies available on the internet are subject to change and that their website is not up to date anyway.

PHX does not have any secondary screening at the gates. I thinks TSA will be remains where they are working at checkpoint instead of gate searches. If I can go down into the concourse but, I will take breaks from work. I'll find out if I can talks with TSA tomorrow. Is that still enforce the rules as Only Ticketed Passengers beyond of security checkpoint? I always go into the sterile area but, I shows TSA with SIDA badge. I had no problems with me from TSA at all. I keep more convenient where I am watched the planes. I don't see anything more logical choice from TSA.

Don't need to. They've already been harassing folks in a couple of airports I've been through.

If they can think of a way to make our lives more miserable, they will.

Oh, and news is that AA is going to charge folks for gate-checking items.

Here's the link to the TSA policy on photo gear.

I haven't re-found the FAA info yet; my printout lacks the URL it came from. I'll update when I find it.

As for the airlines, yes, they can restrict things further, but IME they do not. (Other than one UA ramp agent complaining, not a single UA, US, or DL agent has ever even let out a peep to me about the extra bag the times I've had it with me.)

I suspect this is because they know they don't want any liability issues for checked camera gear, etc., which if they don't let be carried-on may come up (I know they exempt themselves from that liability, but I bet the government would have something to say if they in effect forced pax to check said gear, then denied liability for same).

Saw some TSAers giving people the gloved treatment at C gates for the DL flight from DEN-ATL at 6:15AM today.


When will this madness stop? Not sure how one is to react when stopped again at the gate for a check at 5:45AM on a Sunday morning!

I think a middle finger is appropriate (not if you want to fly, though).

My new best friend! I'll make your drinks nice and strong if you're in my FC cabin!

Oh, and don't forget about the ones that threw a dog off a cliff...

I'm SO sick of hearing men (and maybe women) bash themselves on the chest and talk about how American they are because they are/were in the military. Ok - thanks for your help when you're needed! But you chose to do it, just as I chose not to (and I can't anyway even if I wanted to - thanks homophobes!). I have utmost respect for the men who were in WWII, Vietnam, and Korea...but this current thing?

I don't put military guys/gals in first class if they is on open seat unless the captain or a first class passenger says to. They do a job, risk their lives, and get paid for it - so do I, just in a different way. Does that make me un-American?
<Sorry for the rant - I'm sure I'll take some grief for it, but it's just driving me up a wall...besides have you seen most of the "kids" joining now? Dumb as rocks and 90% southern..how's that for a stereotype?>

I treat TSA nicely, and expect the same. Unfortunately, 75% of the time we as crewmembers are treated no better than anyone else, except that they don't rummage through our bags without good reason. ABQ seems to have some of the most hateful workers for no apparent rhyme/reason.

To bring back gate screening is asinine. What's the purpose? What suddenly changed that we have to regress instead of advance?