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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Cee
If you are like me, you probably pay your bills online, and you probably have a bunch of return envelopes laying around. Put your ID in one of those. Put your ID in a peanut butter & jelly sandwhich...
Actually, not half-bad ideas. Though I'd suggest saran-wrapping one's ID before applying the layer of jelly.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by essxjay
Actually, not half-bad ideas. Though I'd suggest saran-wrapping one's ID before applying the layer of jelly.
Non-food in a sandwich actually is suspicious. Non-food in an envelope is not. Plus there is nothing preventing them from opening up your sandwich to search it. But wrapping the ID is definitely a good idea if you go the sandwich route.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Cee
You guys are really getting yourselves worked up over a hypothetical situation! We don't open mail...we aren't going to open your mail. ...

The problem Cee is that we really don't know that. Your agency has placed itself above the law, accounts to no-one and creates rules to do whatever it wants.

As one of your fellow screeners stated over on the TSA Blog;

"It's all well to know the rules, but when you're on the checkpoint sometimes the rules get "changed" to suit the situation."

I don't trust anyone connected to DHS/TSA!

I think your senior leadership is a danger to this country!

My concern now is how much additional damage can they cause before being replaced in a few months.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by jello2594
Sorry to disagree, but unless its actually mailed, and thus in the possession of the USPS, it's not mail. Simply putting it into an envelope and affixing a stamp does not make it mail. It makes it an envelope that is intended to be mailed, but not yet applicable to the rules below.
Alright, find a small envelope with a clasp (like the yellow manilla ones). Close envelope with clasp and a bit of tape, put your work mail address as return, your home address as to, put a stamp on it, and send it off. Letter goes through the mail system, properly canceled, and arrives at your house. Take off tape, open clasp, put ID in, close clasp and reapply tape, and go fly. Its now a piece of mail that was addressed to you by some company and the TSA can't legally open it during a search. Problem solved.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by sbm12
Plus there is nothing preventing them from opening up your sandwich to search it.
Indeed. (Didn't think *sarcasm* tags were necessary.)
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 5:47 pm
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Pax can be as paranoid as TSOs: the Peanut Butter Plot

Originally Posted by Cee
Put your ID in a peanut butter & jelly sandwhich...
Danger, bad advice, this is obviously a SSI TSA plot to entrap Flyertalkers. In the hot summer peanut butter is soft, you are just daring some TSO to confiscate your PBJ as "too gel like." Don't forget peanut butter looks like C4 on the xray, stick your smart card with a chip in a PBJ and "OMG electronics inside explosive, it's an IED, call the bomb squad water cannon to blast this thing!"
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by jello2594
Sorry to disagree, but unless its actually mailed, and thus in the possession of the USPS, it's not mail. Simply putting it into an envelope and affixing a stamp does not make it mail. It makes it an envelope that is intended to be mailed, but not yet applicable to the rules below.
What if it was mailed to someone else (not the person traveling and carrying it), and already had gone through the mail system (i.e., was postmarked). If I'm carrying unopened mail addressed to someone else, not myself, I would think I don't have permission to authorize it to be opened.

Say I mail my DL to my SO (who lives with me), and then fly with the unopened envelope. Would it violate postal rules for me (or TSA) to open it?
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