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Old Mar 21, 2017, 9:28 am
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7/19: Electronics ban over! Saudia lifts ban.
https://twitter.com/Saudi_Airlines/status/887588098464415744/photo/1
7/12: Royal Air Maroc lifts ban starting 7/13.
https://twitter.com/RAM_Maroc/status/885068591909011459/photo/1
EgyptAir ban also lifted.
https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/885052169233330176/photo/1
7/9: Royal Jordanian & Kuwait Airways lift ban.
https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/884063505397288960/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KuwaitAirways/status/884080142913593344
7/5: Emirates & Qatar lifts ban.
https://www.emirates.com/us/english/help/travel-updates.aspx#/#4086177
http://www.qatarairways.com/us/en/travel-alerts.page?CID=AFALL0204026300000000000
7/4: Turkish lifts electronics ban.
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/status/882343356143161344/
7/2: Etihad lifts electronics ban.
http://www.etihad.com/en/announcements/usa-flights-electronic-device-ban/

6/28: "DHS said the 10 airports where US-bound passengers are currently required to place large PEDs in checked baggage—the so-called laptop ban—can have those PED restrictions lifted if the airports comply with the enhanced security measures being required by the US."

Source: http://atwonline.com/security/all-us...y-requirements

As per mods: No political talk! Political discussions are permitted over in Omni-PR linked below.

Real life experiences with the ban:
Emirates 1
Qatar 1

Official info from U.S. DHS.
Source: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
The aviation security enhancements will include requiring that all personal electronic devices larger than a cell phone or smart phone be placed in checked baggage at 10 airports where flights are departing for the United States.

These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).

There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
Emirates passengers flying to US directly from Dubai:
Source: https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-introduces-laptop-and-tablet-handling-service-for-us-flights
Emirates customers travelling to the US via Dubai will be able to utilise their laptops and tablet devices on the first part of their journeys, and also during transit in Dubai. They must then declare and hand over their laptops, tablets, and other banned electronic devices to security staff at the gate just before boarding their US-bound flight. The devices will be carefully packed into boxes, loaded into the aircraft hold, and returned to the customer at their US destination. There will not be any charge for this service.

Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.

Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Other threads on this topic:
Thread on this subject in TSS-Debate Forum

Thread on this subject in Omni-PR

Thread on similar UK ban, in TSS-Practical forum
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 4:50 am
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According to Reuters: http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa...-idUKKBN16R2JV

The Department of Homeland Security will require passengers coming to the United States from airports in Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Morocco and Qatar to check electronic devices larger than a cell phone such as tablets, portable DVD players, laptops and cameras.

The airports affected are in Amman, Cairo, Kuwait City, Doha, Dubai, Istanbul, Abu Dhabi, Casablanca, Morocco; Riyadh and Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
Better get an iPhone 7 Plus or hope there's something good on the IFE. Imagine paying all that money for 15-17 hours in F from DXB/AUH/DOH and not even a tablet or a laptop.
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I'm planning a trip to Marrakech.

Does this mean I *won't* be affected if I depart from Marrakech, on a connecting flight, through a European carrier, but I will be if I fly out of Casablanca on a direct flight to the US?
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Does this appear to only apply to flights TO the USA and and not flights FROM the USA? I've seen it reported both ways.
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 5:32 am
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
Does this appear to only apply to flights TO the USA and and not flights FROM the USA? I've seen it reported both ways.
Correct: only the outbound flights that depart for US, not the inbound flights that leave the American soil.
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TK official announcement:

Due to the most recent declaration that we’ve received from the concerned authorities, as Turkish Airlines we kindly inform our passengers that any electronic or electirical devices larger than a cell phone or smart phone (except medical devices) must not be transported on board in our flights arriving to the US destinations. However, those passengers will be easily able to transport their mentioned devices in the baggage hold area of the aircraft.
Source: http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-hr...ying-to-the-us
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 6:29 am
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The ban affects nine airlines: Royal Jordanian, Egyptair, Turkish Airlines, Royal Air Maroc, Saudia Airlines, Kuwait Airways, Qatar Airways, Emirates and Etihad Airways; the airlines operate about 50 daily flights to the U.S., according to the administration officials.
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 6:40 am
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Originally Posted by jphripjah
Does this appear to only apply to flights TO the USA and and not flights FROM the USA? I've seen it reported both ways.
Just to the US. US carriers are exempted, even if they were to fly from these countries on this ban list.
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 6:49 am
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There's confusion whether flight crews will be excluded from the ban, if not they'll have to get used to using paper again, assuming they can get paper copies.

It also begs the question on how the USA is going to monitor it unless they are going to search everybody on arrival.

Are there any flights that transit the airports named?

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Old Mar 21, 2017, 7:10 am
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There's confusion whether flight crews will be excluded from the ban, if not they'll have to get used to using paper again, assuming they can get paper copies.

It also begs the question on how the USA is going to monitor it unless they are going to search everybody on arrival.

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According to the article in this morning's Washington Post this does not apply to flight crews.

I would not be at all surprised to see them search every pax on the flights in question. Apparently there are only about 50 flights per day that it applies to.

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Old Mar 21, 2017, 7:20 am
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I thought I read in the WaPo article that it would be implemented starting Saturday. But a lot seems to be unknown. Airlines have 96 hours (apparently from today) to start enforcing.
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 8:15 am
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While I can understand that people may be reluctant to place certain devices into checked luggage fearing they may be lost/stolen, travel insurance is there to cater for that possibility. And, in theory, it could push said airlines to improve their IFE offerings to entice people to fly with them rather than through a hub in Europe.
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 8:16 am
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The problem is, travel insurance won't pay for valuables in the hold. Last time I went through Dubai someone was trying to open my case but luckily locks didn't give in but zips were damaged.

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UK following suit, presumably they'll be applying the ban to BA as well.
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 8:31 am
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The UK's Telegraph newspaper, a reasonably respectable source, suggests that the UK may follow the US's lead on this matter.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/21/exclusive-britain-poised-follow-us-ban-laptops-ipads-flights/
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by Tisbutascratch
UK following suit, presumably they'll be applying the ban to BA as well.
Do you have a source for this? Did a quick search and didn't see anything.

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