Mar 21, 2017, 9:28 am
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7/19: Electronics ban over! Saudia lifts ban.
https://twitter.com/Saudi_Airlines/status/887588098464415744/photo/1
7/12: Royal Air Maroc lifts ban starting 7/13.
https://twitter.com/RAM_Maroc/status/885068591909011459/photo/1
EgyptAir ban also lifted.
https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/885052169233330176/photo/1
7/9: Royal Jordanian & Kuwait Airways lift ban.
https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/884063505397288960/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KuwaitAirways/status/884080142913593344
7/5: Emirates & Qatar lifts ban.
https://www.emirates.com/us/english/help/travel-updates.aspx#/#4086177
http://www.qatarairways.com/us/en/travel-alerts.page?CID=AFALL0204026300000000000
7/4: Turkish lifts electronics ban.
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/status/882343356143161344/
7/2: Etihad lifts electronics ban.
http://www.etihad.com/en/announcements/usa-flights-electronic-device-ban/
6/28: "DHS said the 10 airports where US-bound passengers are currently required to place large PEDs in checked baggage—the so-called laptop ban—can have those PED restrictions lifted if the airports comply with the enhanced security measures being required by the US."
Source: http://atwonline.com/security/all-us...y-requirements
As per mods: No political talk! Political discussions are permitted over in Omni-PR linked below.
Real life experiences with the ban:
Emirates 1
Qatar 1
Official info from U.S. DHS.
Source: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
Emirates passengers flying to US directly from Dubai:
Source: https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-introduces-laptop-and-tablet-handling-service-for-us-flights
Other threads on this topic:
Thread on this subject in TSS-Debate Forum
Thread on this subject in Omni-PR
Thread on similar UK ban, in TSS-Practical forum
https://twitter.com/Saudi_Airlines/status/887588098464415744/photo/1
7/12: Royal Air Maroc lifts ban starting 7/13.
https://twitter.com/RAM_Maroc/status/885068591909011459/photo/1
EgyptAir ban also lifted.
https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/885052169233330176/photo/1
7/9: Royal Jordanian & Kuwait Airways lift ban.
https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/884063505397288960/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KuwaitAirways/status/884080142913593344
7/5: Emirates & Qatar lifts ban.
https://www.emirates.com/us/english/help/travel-updates.aspx#/#4086177
http://www.qatarairways.com/us/en/travel-alerts.page?CID=AFALL0204026300000000000
7/4: Turkish lifts electronics ban.
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/status/882343356143161344/
7/2: Etihad lifts electronics ban.
http://www.etihad.com/en/announcements/usa-flights-electronic-device-ban/
6/28: "DHS said the 10 airports where US-bound passengers are currently required to place large PEDs in checked baggage—the so-called laptop ban—can have those PED restrictions lifted if the airports comply with the enhanced security measures being required by the US."
Source: http://atwonline.com/security/all-us...y-requirements
As per mods: No political talk! Political discussions are permitted over in Omni-PR linked below.
Real life experiences with the ban:
Emirates 1
Qatar 1
Official info from U.S. DHS.
Source: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
The aviation security enhancements will include requiring that all personal electronic devices larger than a cell phone or smart phone be placed in checked baggage at 10 airports where flights are departing for the United States.
These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).
There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).
There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
Source: https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-introduces-laptop-and-tablet-handling-service-for-us-flights
Emirates customers travelling to the US via Dubai will be able to utilise their laptops and tablet devices on the first part of their journeys, and also during transit in Dubai. They must then declare and hand over their laptops, tablets, and other banned electronic devices to security staff at the gate just before boarding their US-bound flight. The devices will be carefully packed into boxes, loaded into the aircraft hold, and returned to the customer at their US destination. There will not be any charge for this service.
Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.
Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.
Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Thread on this subject in TSS-Debate Forum
Thread on this subject in Omni-PR
Thread on similar UK ban, in TSS-Practical forum
Electronics Banned in Cabin on Flights to US from 8 ME and North African Countries
Mar 20, 2017, 3:25 pm
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Those attempts to indemnify themselves in their contracts of carriage are invalid for relevant Montreal Convention-covered trips. If the convention-covered airline checked them in, then the airline is still liable under the convention rules. Not that 1000SDR necessarily goes very far.
Mar 20, 2017, 3:39 pm
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Some news articles mentioned that RJ may have made the information public ahead of the authorized time.
Mar 20, 2017, 3:52 pm
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CNN Money article is up.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/20/news...ban/index.html
A State Department officials says embassy officials have been notifying relevant countries and airlines.
An aviation official said U.S. carriers are not impacted because none flies directly from the countries in question to the U.S. Neither source would specify what airlines were impacted beyond Royal Jordanian Airlines, which tweeted Monday that it will ban most electronics from the cabins on its flights to and from its North American destinations.
An aviation official said U.S. carriers are not impacted because none flies directly from the countries in question to the U.S. Neither source would specify what airlines were impacted beyond Royal Jordanian Airlines, which tweeted Monday that it will ban most electronics from the cabins on its flights to and from its North American destinations.
Mar 20, 2017, 4:17 pm
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Link: https://www.theguardian.com/business...s-13-countries
All electronic items must be in their check in baggage.
Pretty sure this is going to do wonders for tourism and business/corporate travel to the US.
People will just take their tourism dollars and business else where I guess after this. Nobody in their right mind will check in their work/social lap top into a check in bag. What more a 5k camera and lenses.
Wonder if a specific threat has been made or intelligence has been made aware of something specific from a number of countries. Whatever it is, I don't know if this is just paranoia and an attempt to scare people under the new administration or part 3 of this presidents' attempts to legislate or introduce bans on people from certain countries or to deter them from coming.
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Mar 20, 2017, 4:28 pm
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apart from the security of putting electronics in your checked bag ie:
1. Will it be there at the other end
2. Lithiam batteries (as already mentioned) ...
what happens if you don't check luggage - I havent checked luggage for years - or will you be expected to check your carryon (and pay the extra for it?)
1. Will it be there at the other end
2. Lithiam batteries (as already mentioned) ...
what happens if you don't check luggage - I havent checked luggage for years - or will you be expected to check your carryon (and pay the extra for it?)
Mar 20, 2017, 4:38 pm
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Some info here...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/electronics-ban-on-some-us-bound-flights/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=35668323
Still a head scratcher
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/electronics-ban-on-some-us-bound-flights/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=35668323
Still a head scratcher
Mar 20, 2017, 4:43 pm
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If the ban does not affect american airliners, who benefits and who get's hammered financially due to cancellations and other issues....
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Mar 20, 2017, 5:46 pm
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Unofficial list of cities, taken from TPG's comments section.
ACC -Accra, Ghana
AMM - Amman, Jordan
CAI - Cairo, Egypt
CMN - Casablanca, Morocco
DOH - Doha, Qatar
DXB - Dubai, UAE
IST - Istanbul, Turkey
KWI - Kuwait City, Kuwait
LOS - Lagos, Nigeria
JED - Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
RUH - Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
AUH - Abu Dhabi, UAE
ADD - Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
ACC -Accra, Ghana
AMM - Amman, Jordan
CAI - Cairo, Egypt
CMN - Casablanca, Morocco
DOH - Doha, Qatar
DXB - Dubai, UAE
IST - Istanbul, Turkey
KWI - Kuwait City, Kuwait
LOS - Lagos, Nigeria
JED - Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
RUH - Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
AUH - Abu Dhabi, UAE
ADD - Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
Mar 20, 2017, 5:47 pm
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Wonder if a specific threat has been made or intelligence has been made aware of something specific from a number of countries. Whatever it is, I don't know if this is just paranoia and an attempt to scare people under the new administration or part 3 of this presidents' attempts to legislate or introduce bans on people from certain countries or to deter them from coming.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/20/news...ban/index.html
Mar 20, 2017, 6:04 pm
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Folks,
We realize it can be difficult to dance around the political ramifications of this new electronics ban but TS/S is not the place for political remarks of any sort. We've already removed a number of posts and ask that you keep your comments politics-free and on topic.
If you need guidance about what's acceptable please read the TS/S guidelines or shoot an PM to any/all forum mods -- aztimm, essxjay, squeakr, TWA884 -- for assistance.
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We realize it can be difficult to dance around the political ramifications of this new electronics ban but TS/S is not the place for political remarks of any sort. We've already removed a number of posts and ask that you keep your comments politics-free and on topic.
If you need guidance about what's acceptable please read the TS/S guidelines or shoot an PM to any/all forum mods -- aztimm, essxjay, squeakr, TWA884 -- for assistance.
essxjay, TS/S co-mod
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Mar 20, 2017, 8:25 pm
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Folks,
One more time for those who may have missed it:
Political commentary is not permitted in this forum. Those who violate this directive will be subject to suspension of posting privileges.
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One more time for those who may have missed it:
Political commentary is not permitted in this forum. Those who violate this directive will be subject to suspension of posting privileges.
essxjay, TS/S co-moid