notquiteaff

Or buy an eReader or tablet or camera or iPod (are those still allowed? What about noise canceling headsets?) in a duty free shop past security. Can't take that risk...

Global321

The UK has announced a cabin baggage ban on laptops on passenger flights from Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia and Saudi Arabia.

The restrictions, which also apply to tablets, DVD players and phones over a certain size, follow a similar US ban affecting eight countries.

Downing Street said they followed talks on air security and were "necessary, effective and proportionate".
US officials said bombs could be hidden in a series of devices.

The six affected UK carriers are:
British Airways
EasyJet
Jet2.com
Monarch
Thomas Cook
Thomson

The eight overseas airlines subject to the ban are:
Turkish Airlines
Pegasus Airways
Atlas-Global Airlines
Middle East Airlines
Egyptair
Royal Jordanian,
Tunis Air
Saudia

The ban applies to any device, including mobiles and smart phones, larger than 16cm long, 9.3cm wide or 1.5cm deep.

Any affected device will need to be placed into hold luggage and checked in before passengers go through airport security.

A UK government spokesperson said: "Decisions to make changes to our aviation security regime are never taken lightly.

"We will not hesitate to act in order to maintain the safety of the travelling public and we will work closely with our international partners to minimise any disruption these new measures may cause."



http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39343971

billy10drs

Does anyone know how this would affect connections? I am flying from KGL-ORD via IST on TK in June. If I have my kindle in my carry on how will they know it is in my bag since I am staying airport side past security? Will there be xray machines at the gate or they will do a detail hand search of every carry on? Just not sure how much this can be enforced especially for connections.

Also, how the hell can a kindle hold an explosive device!?!?!?!

Global321

The USA is giving carriers 96 hours to comply.

A senior Trump administration official said the airlines are being given 96 hours to fully implement the rules, starting 3 a.m. ET Tuesday, because "evaluated intelligence indicates that terror groups continue to target aviation, to include smuggling explosives in electronic devices."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...rports-n736181

techie

All Kindles are more than 10cm wide, so they would not be allowed.

kq747

My guess is gate x-raying of all carry on baggage. This is certainly done at some airports already (NBO comes to mind) but airports like DXB/IST/AUH also have secondary screening set up for certain passengers at the gate for US bound flights so they would just have to put x ray machines at the gates. My guess is that is what the "96 hours" to comply with the order are for, as well as to make sure that check in agents make passengers aware of the rules and that if they are not willing to check their laptop/kindle then they either dump the device or elect not fly. This is already somewhat in play as there is a policy of being able to power on electronics on ALL flights to the US/UK and if you cannot then you must leave the device behind or you cannot fly.

Global321

Etihad will try to collect laptops at the "point of origin", but does not give specifics.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...ica/99433864/#


“For those guests bound for the U.S., this must be done at the point of origin which may not necessarily be at Abu Dhabi International Airport," Etihad said in a statement Tuesday, with rules going into effect March 25. “Safety and security remain the highest priority for Etihad Airways and we will continue to assist passengers in complying with this directive."

chrini1

Since KGL is an unclean airport, you will have to pass security in Istanbul. There are only a few clean countries, such as Germany.

BTW: If connecting in MUC coming from the US, the US is consired as unclean as well.

invisible

<deleted>, just released that I have a flight in 10 days SIN-IST-FRA-ZRH-IST-SIN on TK and I am travelling not just one, but TWO work laptops in my carry-on.

Will TK allow me to cancel the ticket?....

techie

Neither fact sheet on DHS website says anything about exemptions for crew. Do you have a source?
Why would you want to unless Germany or Singapore announce similar bans?

kq747

You're not flying to USA or the UK so you will not be affected...unless Germany or Switzerland change something in 10 days.

tcm

You don't touch the U.K. Or U.S. right unless other European nations or Singapore follow this lunacy you are good to go...

nomii

What if its a completely seperate ticket with no interline/through-check agreements? IST/DXB/AUH are major hubs.

E.g. I often fly from Pakistan to IST/DXB/AUH on a seperate ticket with two laptops (on Pakistan Airlines or flydubai or airblue or gulfair etc), stay airside, show my mobile boarding pass already checked in and get on the Turkish/Emirates/Etihad flight. I fit the prime profile for someone they are trying to prevent (a frequent traveller from problematic countries, flying with many electronics). This is an extremely common scenario for business people flying from India/Pakistan, and many people flying this route do not have a visa to clear immigration in the UAE/Turkish hubs (important later).

So I arrive at DXB with my carryon, stay airside, go to the boarding gates for Emirates with my mobile boarding pass. When i show my mobile boarding pass at the gate, with my carry on, what happens to the laptop (given that this was the first time i came across Emirates groundstaff, i never had the opportunity or need to check in my baggage).

Fortunately, I have a US passport, so worst case I can always clear immigration to have my baggage checked in at the DXB checking counters. But what if someone flying my exact same itinerary was a Pakistani citizen (who cannot exit DXB/IST airports without a visa, so they will not have the opportunity to be able to go to emirates checkin counters to get their baggage checked).


We need a clear ruling on what happens in case an ipad/e-reader is discovered at the gate - will it be thrown away in trash like water bottles or will it be gate-checked.

invisible

So - are any of you sure that this is not gonna happen?

ROCAT

The UK has a history of following the US on things like this, the EU, Canada and Asia do not. Beyond that you really have no reassurances as I do not think any nation has said they are not going to.