Mar 21, 2017, 9:28 am
Last edit by: oopl
7/19: Electronics ban over! Saudia lifts ban.
https://twitter.com/Saudi_Airlines/status/887588098464415744/photo/1
7/12: Royal Air Maroc lifts ban starting 7/13.
https://twitter.com/RAM_Maroc/status/885068591909011459/photo/1
EgyptAir ban also lifted.
https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/885052169233330176/photo/1
7/9: Royal Jordanian & Kuwait Airways lift ban.
https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/884063505397288960/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KuwaitAirways/status/884080142913593344
7/5: Emirates & Qatar lifts ban.
https://www.emirates.com/us/english/help/travel-updates.aspx#/#4086177
http://www.qatarairways.com/us/en/travel-alerts.page?CID=AFALL0204026300000000000
7/4: Turkish lifts electronics ban.
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/status/882343356143161344/
7/2: Etihad lifts electronics ban.
http://www.etihad.com/en/announcements/usa-flights-electronic-device-ban/
6/28: "DHS said the 10 airports where US-bound passengers are currently required to place large PEDs in checked baggage—the so-called laptop ban—can have those PED restrictions lifted if the airports comply with the enhanced security measures being required by the US."
Source: http://atwonline.com/security/all-us...y-requirements
As per mods: No political talk! Political discussions are permitted over in Omni-PR linked below.
Real life experiences with the ban:
Emirates 1
Qatar 1
Official info from U.S. DHS.
Source: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
Emirates passengers flying to US directly from Dubai:
Source: https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-introduces-laptop-and-tablet-handling-service-for-us-flights
Other threads on this topic:
Thread on this subject in TSS-Debate Forum
Thread on this subject in Omni-PR
Thread on similar UK ban, in TSS-Practical forum
https://twitter.com/Saudi_Airlines/status/887588098464415744/photo/1
7/12: Royal Air Maroc lifts ban starting 7/13.
https://twitter.com/RAM_Maroc/status/885068591909011459/photo/1
EgyptAir ban also lifted.
https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/885052169233330176/photo/1
7/9: Royal Jordanian & Kuwait Airways lift ban.
https://twitter.com/RoyalJordanian/status/884063505397288960/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KuwaitAirways/status/884080142913593344
7/5: Emirates & Qatar lifts ban.
https://www.emirates.com/us/english/help/travel-updates.aspx#/#4086177
http://www.qatarairways.com/us/en/travel-alerts.page?CID=AFALL0204026300000000000
7/4: Turkish lifts electronics ban.
https://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/status/882343356143161344/
7/2: Etihad lifts electronics ban.
http://www.etihad.com/en/announcements/usa-flights-electronic-device-ban/
6/28: "DHS said the 10 airports where US-bound passengers are currently required to place large PEDs in checked baggage—the so-called laptop ban—can have those PED restrictions lifted if the airports comply with the enhanced security measures being required by the US."
Source: http://atwonline.com/security/all-us...y-requirements
As per mods: No political talk! Political discussions are permitted over in Omni-PR linked below.
Real life experiences with the ban:
Emirates 1
Qatar 1
Official info from U.S. DHS.
Source: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
The aviation security enhancements will include requiring that all personal electronic devices larger than a cell phone or smart phone be placed in checked baggage at 10 airports where flights are departing for the United States.
These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).
There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).
There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
Source: https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-introduces-laptop-and-tablet-handling-service-for-us-flights
Emirates customers travelling to the US via Dubai will be able to utilise their laptops and tablet devices on the first part of their journeys, and also during transit in Dubai. They must then declare and hand over their laptops, tablets, and other banned electronic devices to security staff at the gate just before boarding their US-bound flight. The devices will be carefully packed into boxes, loaded into the aircraft hold, and returned to the customer at their US destination. There will not be any charge for this service.
Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.
Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Passengers on US-bound flights starting their journeys in Dubai are encouraged to pack their electronic devices into their check-in luggage in the first instance, to avoid delays.
Customers should be aware that there will be a detailed search of all hand baggage on non-stop flights to the US from Dubai. They should therefore declare their devices before the search, or ensure their electronic devices are packed into their check-in luggage in the first instance.
Thread on this subject in TSS-Debate Forum
Thread on this subject in Omni-PR
Thread on similar UK ban, in TSS-Practical forum
Electronics Banned in Cabin on Flights to US from 8 ME and North African Countries
Mar 21, 2017, 8:33 am
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That is subject to terms and conditions of individual insurance plans rather than a blanket policy for all of them. Some plans do cover such items irrespective of whether it is in carry-on or checked luggage, but have per-item limit that may not cover the actual cost of replacing the lost/damaged equipment.
Mar 21, 2017, 8:42 am
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That is subject to terms and conditions of individual insurance plans rather than a blanket policy for all of them. Some plans do cover such items irrespective of whether it is in carry-on or checked luggage, but have per-item limit that may not cover the actual cost of replacing the lost/damaged equipment.
Mar 21, 2017, 8:57 am
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While I can understand that people may be reluctant to place certain devices into checked luggage fearing they may be lost/stolen, travel insurance is there to cater for that possibility. And, in theory, it could push said airlines to improve their IFE offerings to entice people to fly with them rather than through a hub in Europe.
As far as IFE goes, the trend is to remove these systems from the aircraft, and I can't blame them. Due to the design & certification process, by the time IFE is being installed it's already outdated by a good 5 years. Even if airlines wanted to reverse that trend, it'd take around 5-8 years for an airline to overhaul their entire flight with new IFE.
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Mar 21, 2017, 8:58 am
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Mar 21, 2017, 9:00 am
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I've cancelled my partly refundable ticket after QR was not willed to give me a written statement to be held liable for all eventual damages to my laptop that I'd have to check. They've refunded the entire ticket.
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Mar 21, 2017, 9:26 am
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Straight from the horses mouth...
Electronic devices larger than a cell phone/smart phone will not be allowed to be carried onboard the aircraft in carry-on luggage or other accessible property. Electronic devices that exceed this size limit must be secured in checked luggage. Necessary medical devices will be allowed to remain in a passenger’s possession after they are screened.
These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).
There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
Electronic devices larger than a cell phone/smart phone will not be allowed to be carried onboard the aircraft in carry-on luggage or other accessible property. Electronic devices that exceed this size limit must be secured in checked luggage. Necessary medical devices will be allowed to remain in a passenger’s possession after they are screened.
These enhancements apply to 10 specific airports. The affected overseas airports are: Queen Alia International Airport (AMM), Cairo International Airport (CAI), Ataturk International Airport (IST), King Abdul-Aziz International Airport (JED), King Khalid International Airport (RUH), Kuwait International Airport (KWI), Mohammed V Airport (CMN), Hamad International Airport (DOH), Dubai International Airport (DXB), and Abu Dhabi International Airport (AUH).
There is no impact on domestic flights in the United States or flights departing the United States. Electronic devices will continue to be allowed on all flights originating in the United States.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2017/03/21/...rture-airports
Mar 21, 2017, 9:39 am
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I'd like to remind everyone that this is the Practical Forum. It is intended to have a discussion of what is allowed, what isn't, clear up any confusion over rules, etc.
This is NOT the place to debate the merits of rules.
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Mar 21, 2017, 9:39 am
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Mar 21, 2017, 9:41 am
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No idea what it means, but this from the QR website:
If anyone flies QR to the U.S. and has any of the prohibited items, please post your experience here. I'm scheduled DOH-BOS at the beginning of April and any info will help me plan better. Thanks!!
Qatar Airways has made special arrangements to assist passengers in securing their devices in the aircraft's baggage hold.
Mar 21, 2017, 9:48 am
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How will this even be implemented at the gate?
Take this scenario:
Pax starts in KUL, connects through DXB on the way to JFK. Checked-in luggage, but for whatever reason still has an iPad/Laptop on them for the KUL-DXB flight.
At the gate in DXB headed to JFK, assuming they do gate screening, where does the offending device go? Unless every single outstation prevents the devices on connecting flights too, I can see this being a larger problems for travelers at the connecting point.
Take this scenario:
Pax starts in KUL, connects through DXB on the way to JFK. Checked-in luggage, but for whatever reason still has an iPad/Laptop on them for the KUL-DXB flight.
At the gate in DXB headed to JFK, assuming they do gate screening, where does the offending device go? Unless every single outstation prevents the devices on connecting flights too, I can see this being a larger problems for travelers at the connecting point.
Mar 21, 2017, 9:49 am
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With the UK government considering a similar approach, I am worried about my upcoming travel from Shanghai to Glasgow.
The Chinese authorities will not allow me to take a laptop with me in my hold baggage, especially as it has a battery attached.
Any ideas what the alternative is?
The Chinese authorities will not allow me to take a laptop with me in my hold baggage, especially as it has a battery attached.
Any ideas what the alternative is?
Mar 21, 2017, 9:51 am
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With the UK government considering a similar approach, I am worried about my upcoming travel from Shanghai to Glasgow.
The Chinese authorities will not allow me to take a laptop with me in my hold baggage, especially as it has a battery attached.
Any ideas what the alternative is?
The Chinese authorities will not allow me to take a laptop with me in my hold baggage, especially as it has a battery attached.
Any ideas what the alternative is?
Mar 21, 2017, 9:56 am
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I would love any data points for anyone flying Turkish. I am flying MRU-IST-BOS on April 1st. No idea how this is going to be handled at the gate if I don't check all my electronics. We have some pricey camera equipment from our safari and I am not thrilled with the idea of checking that along with a 10 hour layover.