"SSSS" - Secondary Security Screening Selection
#166
Join Date: Aug 2012
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I got the SSSS once when flying from Barcelona to New York. No idea why, they said it was randomly generated. The security guy was nice. He emptied my bag and ran it thru an X ray machine and left me to repack it. I was done in about 15 minutes.
I spent more time waiting in a small cubicle with about 15 other people than actually being searched.
I spent more time waiting in a small cubicle with about 15 other people than actually being searched.
#167
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Maybe the agent figured that one flight was good enough and that you've learned your lesson !
#168
Join Date: May 2008
Location: BOS
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Possibly, but I don't know if agents still have the power to do that under Secure Flight like they did under CAPPS. Could just have been a total random selection as occasionally happens.
#169
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#170
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I was given the SSSS by Delta twice on TLV-JFK flights. As Israeli security felt it knew enough about me not to be concerned, the first time I was only asked to show both my Israeli and American passports.
The second time it happened I was told at check in to forget about it -- they no longer pay attention to it in Israel.
What I found very amusing is that while I was SSSSed for the first flights of these two itineraries I was given Pre-Check for all of the remaining flight.
The second time it happened I was told at check in to forget about it -- they no longer pay attention to it in Israel.
What I found very amusing is that while I was SSSSed for the first flights of these two itineraries I was given Pre-Check for all of the remaining flight.
#172
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: PHL / SFO
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I got one yesterday for the first time ever - YVR to SEA. I couldn't check in online, so I suspected something was up right there.
The flight was booked late, on a company credit card (not my name), and a one-way ticket. I think those reasons right there have something to do with it.
It was a pretty thorough search/pat-down - but only took a few minutes extra. There was a female pilot (in uniform) getting a very hard time ahead of me too, which was a bit odd to see.
The flight was booked late, on a company credit card (not my name), and a one-way ticket. I think those reasons right there have something to do with it.
It was a pretty thorough search/pat-down - but only took a few minutes extra. There was a female pilot (in uniform) getting a very hard time ahead of me too, which was a bit odd to see.
#173
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 38
I'm a UAL Silver and have usually been assigned to TSA pre-check. Got one for the first time at end of recent trip where we were flying YYZ to LAX on AC then LAX to HNL on UA. The SSSS showed up on the boarding passes issued by Air Canada for both flights (YYZ-LAX & LAX-HNL). Didn't notice it then, probably because there was nothing unusual about my transit through security at YYZ -- not TSA pre-check but regular security lines. Had tried to check in online for the AC leg but was told to go to the airport to complete check-in, which has usually been the case for departures from Canada.
When we arrived at security at LAX for our UAL flight to HNL, I got pulled out of line & put through the full-on routine. What was interesting was that my UA boarding pass (on the app) showed me as TSA pre-check, no indication of SSSS. I asked the TSA agents about this and they said I'd have to ask the airline. I had a chance to talk to a UAL gate agent while dealing with flight delays for the HNL leg & he laughed and said he wouldn't want to guess. No evidence that TSA searched my checked bag unless they've now stopped leaving you notes about it.
When we arrived at security at LAX for our UAL flight to HNL, I got pulled out of line & put through the full-on routine. What was interesting was that my UA boarding pass (on the app) showed me as TSA pre-check, no indication of SSSS. I asked the TSA agents about this and they said I'd have to ask the airline. I had a chance to talk to a UAL gate agent while dealing with flight delays for the HNL leg & he laughed and said he wouldn't want to guess. No evidence that TSA searched my checked bag unless they've now stopped leaving you notes about it.
#174
Join Date: Jan 2014
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#175
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It sucks. I got ssss'ed on a 5 flight itinerary from the US to Europe, through several countries in Europe, and back. Every time I got pulled, including during the superfluous Gatwick connection security check. No online check in, was denied every time. Had to line up for an agent when I needed to check in. No kiosk check in either.
I hope it was a random selection, or I am going to find out what I have done to get on the shitlist.
I hope it was a random selection, or I am going to find out what I have done to get on the shitlist.
Last edited by Proudelitist; Jan 28, 2016 at 11:39 am
#176
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ORD
Programs: AA PLT
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SSSS... on an airside BP?
Encountered a new one today. GF and I (both GE) were checking in at LIR for our flight home. Couldn't check-in online, which turned out to be because she got flagged with SSSS (but only on her ex-LIR BP, not her connecting BP from DFW).
When we got to DFW, we hustled to the gate to standby for an earlier connection and got listed. When the agent processed the list and printed out our new BPs, she now had SSSS on the connecting pass. Agent said that despite already being in the sterile area, my GF had to exit and rescreen.
Naturally, since they printed the BPs five minutes before closing the door, we missed the flight.
A TSA supervisor we spoke to at the checkpoint said the gate agent was incorrect and we shouldn't have been sent out.
Who was correct?
When we got to DFW, we hustled to the gate to standby for an earlier connection and got listed. When the agent processed the list and printed out our new BPs, she now had SSSS on the connecting pass. Agent said that despite already being in the sterile area, my GF had to exit and rescreen.
Naturally, since they printed the BPs five minutes before closing the door, we missed the flight.
A TSA supervisor we spoke to at the checkpoint said the gate agent was incorrect and we shouldn't have been sent out.
Who was correct?
#177
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TSA was correct. If anything, the GA should have called for the TSA to come to the gate. Most GAs will just ignore it at that point.
Just to be sure, the GA processed the standby, but then wouldn't board you two due to the SSSS, right? That is grounds for a DOT complaint IMHO; it's effectively denied boarding.
Just to be sure, the GA processed the standby, but then wouldn't board you two due to the SSSS, right? That is grounds for a DOT complaint IMHO; it's effectively denied boarding.
#178
Join Date: May 2008
Location: BOS
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TSA was correct. If anything, the GA should have called for the TSA to come to the gate. Most GAs will just ignore it at that point.
Just to be sure, the GA processed the standby, but then wouldn't board you two due to the SSSS, right? That is grounds for a DOT complaint IMHO; it's effectively denied boarding.
Just to be sure, the GA processed the standby, but then wouldn't board you two due to the SSSS, right? That is grounds for a DOT complaint IMHO; it's effectively denied boarding.
Last edited by LoganTSO; Jan 5, 2016 at 12:55 pm Reason: clairification
#179
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About 6 years ago I was flying LGA-STL-LAS. I was upgraded LGA-STL. When I got to the AC in STL, I found my STL-LAS upgrade had cleared--but the new BP had SSSS; the agent did some "magical operations" on her keyboard, and printed a new bp with NO SSSS. On my return trip (3 days later), my LAS departing bp had SSSS.
#180
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About 6 years ago I was flying LGA-STL-LAS. I was upgraded LGA-STL. When I got to the AC in STL, I found my STL-LAS upgrade had cleared--but the new BP had SSSS; the agent did some "magical operations" on her keyboard, and printed a new bp with NO SSSS. On my return trip (3 days later), my LAS departing bp had SSSS.
Last edited by TWA884; Jul 26, 2019 at 9:40 am