Disruptive passenger incident on AA 1561 ORD to SFO May 8 2011
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You cannot be charged for taking pictures simply because a FA tells you not to. There is no such law.
Yes, I know about the "Failing to comply" part, but that doesn't mean I legally have to tie my shoes if a FA tells me to tie my shoes, or eat my veggies, simply because an FA told me not to. This is abuse of authority, and I would have no fear taking pictures of such an incident. It would also be a restriction of freedom of press. Even though not a member of a news organization, I have the right to take pictures of a news event.
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I hope they beat the **** out of him. Maybe they can add nutcases to the no-fly list as the current list doesn't seem to be very useful.
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If they did this, it would add a layer of genuine security and watchfulness.
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Those onboard, however, had no idea what was happening, and they had reason to believe it might end in violence. Even one unarmed crazy guy can be pretty dangerous when everyone is packed into a flying aluminum tube.
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In my best Nigel Tufnel voice: For those in First Class, did this effect the beverage service?
If so, did you receive any premium drink chits for the club?
On a separate subject, perhaps more than a curtain is required to keep coach passengers from coming into first class. It seems to get more challenging every year to maintain the appropriate separation.
If so, did you receive any premium drink chits for the club?
On a separate subject, perhaps more than a curtain is required to keep coach passengers from coming into first class. It seems to get more challenging every year to maintain the appropriate separation.
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In my best Nigel Tufnel voice: For those in First Class, did this effect the beverage service?
If so, did you receive any premium drink chits for the club?
On a separate subject, perhaps more than a curtain is required to keep coach passengers from coming into first class. It seems to get more challenging every year to maintain the appropriate separation.
If so, did you receive any premium drink chits for the club?
On a separate subject, perhaps more than a curtain is required to keep coach passengers from coming into first class. It seems to get more challenging every year to maintain the appropriate separation.
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I know this is FT and I know we have some of our favorite jokes, but can we please refrain from using them in this situation? Whether this was a mentally unstable individual or truly a thwarted act of terrorism, I personally view it as rather serious and concerning. It appears over the weekend that multiple flights were affected by "security concerns" and at this point in time I find it poor taste to be making light of these situations.
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I am trying to recall another time other than 9/11 with this much pandaemonium.
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I know this is FT and I know we have some of our favorite jokes, but can we please refrain from using them in this situation? Whether this was a mentally unstable individual or truly a thwarted act of terrorism, I personally view it as rather serious and concerning. It appears over the weekend that multiple flights were affected by "security concerns" and at this point in time I find it poor taste to be making light of these situations.
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If the FA or another uniformed crew member gives you instructions to follow their company policy, you can and will be arrested. Outside of that, I dont believe the photograph portion is law.
In reality, you would need to really be pushing the issue to have them call ahead and have you taken off the plane in cuffs.
In reality, you would need to really be pushing the issue to have them call ahead and have you taken off the plane in cuffs.
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because they are reporting these instances now, because they want to expand their Police State. And the only way to do that would be to have a bunch of incidents they can point to and say 'see!'
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http://blogs.star-telegram.com/sky_t...t-reads-1.html
AA1561 ORD-SFO, as described here
DL1706, DET-SAN. Diverted to ABQ for a search and security screening, rumored to be a bomb threat note seen in the lav.
CO546 IAH-ORD, diverted to STL. Man rushed the cockpit then tried to open the door saying he had to get off the plane.
AA1561 ORD-SFO, as described here
DL1706, DET-SAN. Diverted to ABQ for a search and security screening, rumored to be a bomb threat note seen in the lav.
CO546 IAH-ORD, diverted to STL. Man rushed the cockpit then tried to open the door saying he had to get off the plane.