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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by tanja
Are you talking about preperation from the parents?

This kid has a something called Zell Weager Syndrome. A lot of die an early death.

He is still alaive thanks to alternative medicine. (another story) He is 95 % death. And doctors couldnt figure that out until 2 years ago. Even if the family suspected it.
We know his moves and so on. He cant commuicate with strangers at all.
His doctor says just to leave him be.
Nobody else is involved at that level that have any input at all.

He is terrified of strangers.

He would not let anybody touch him. Doesnt matter if parents hold him. You just cant explain that to him.His is very protective of his body.

I am just worried about him if they would fly.

And I have 6 kids of my own and one step kid. So I do know kids to.
You don't understand, TSORon is a Security Expert, he said so!
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
You don't understand, TSORon is a Security Expert, he said so!
He really didnt say anything how they would handle it.
Plus he doesnt speak english at all. He doesnt speak period.
He is swedish.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 5:26 pm
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Originally Posted by tanja
He really didnt say anything how they would handle it.
Plus he doesnt speak english at all. He doesnt speak period.
He is swedish.
It's OK, lots of TSOs know how to TALK REALLY LOUD (it's called 'barking').
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by TSORon
If a passenger is so egregiously injured that they cannot be touched, they cannot undergo AIT screening, or that they cannot undergo WTMD screening, most likely they are not going to be at the airport anyway. For that one in a million who do anyway, they take the chance that they will not be able to get through screening.
There are far more than 'one in a million' people who should not be touched in various areas of their body. You have no business touching a wound, or an injury, and causing pain or harm.

People do fly with illnesses, and with injuries, and have every right to do so. But you do not have the right to further injure them, or to cause them more pain.

I cannot fathom that even TSA gives their employees permission to remove dressings, place pressure on wounds, or otherwise harm passengers. I know that it happens, and it has happened to several posters, but I cannot imagine that it is under the direction of TSA.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by chollie
It's OK, lots of TSOs know how to TALK REALLY LOUD (it's called 'barking').
You know they can yell and scream all they want to. The kid still is death.
And dont understand english at all.

If they want to make fools of them selves be my guest.

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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by gsoltso
[Your definition of wrong may be different than other people involved in the situation, but you are always free to speak up about it.^
To whom? Will anyone listen?

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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 6:14 pm
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Originally Posted by rgfloor
Your definition of wrong may be different than other people involved in the situation, but you are always free to speak up about it.^
To whom? Will anyone listen?[/QUOTE]

Who are you refering to?
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 10:32 pm
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Originally Posted by gsoltso
Again, from what I have read and been told, what you have been describing and what actually is supposed to happen are different. I am sorry that I can't go into detail or give more info on the steps or specific protocols, but know there is a difference in what is being described. Have you contacted TSA HQ directly about what has happened? If not, I can post you the info for contacting them for you if you need. Please do not take this as a brushoff, but there really is nothing I can do for you in my capacity as a frontliner. If you feel that what has happened to you is inappropriate, please contact TSA HQ. (also, it is not a matter of not believing you, it is a matter of having different information as to what is supposed to take place and what you are saying is actually happening to you)
Just to be clear, I am well aware that you can do nothing to help the situation that I am subjected to quite regularly nor did I expect that you could. I can also tell from the info above that you have little or no knowledge about the protocol for screening of passengers entering the U. S. from Canada. And it is quite obvious that you have absolutely no idea who even does the screening at pre-clearance check-points.

Perhaps you think that your "I have different information than you do" answer is impressive to those reading along but, in fact, I would bet that I know more about this issue than you do. It's time to do your homework...
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 11:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
You are correct and I retracted my question.
Wow go away for a few days because of a family emergency and the fangs come out. Nice.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 6:03 am
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Originally Posted by docmonkey
It seems like if you had to go through a TSA checkpoint at another airport, you wouldn't even know what would constitute an inappropriately invasive pat down. Is that right?
Not based on my research and conversations with folks that are trained on the newest patdown procedures, that would be an inaccurate statement.

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To whom? Will anyone listen?
I can post the contact info for TSA and DHS here, I have done so several times previously and will be happy to do so again. There are ways to contact each individual airports TSA staff, there is the "Talk To TSA" site, there are a list of ways for someone to contact TSA and ultimately DHS if you are unhappy with the response you get from TSA. As to whom will hear or respond, I can't not say, but there are avenues of communication that you can use.

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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
Wow go away for a few days because of a family emergency and the fangs come out. Nice.
Fangs? Sorry not at all.

I posted a question that attributed something someone else said and something you stated thinking it was the same person. My error was pointed out to me and I made an immediate correction.

Unlike TSA if I do something wrong I correct it.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by Jetbee
Just to be clear, I am well aware that you can do nothing to help the situation that I am subjected to quite regularly nor did I expect that you could. I can also tell from the info above that you have little or no knowledge about the protocol for screening of passengers entering the U. S. from Canada. And it is quite obvious that you have absolutely no idea who even does the screening at pre-clearance check-points.

Perhaps you think that your "I have different information than you do" answer is impressive to those reading along but, in fact, I would bet that I know more about this issue than you do. It's time to do your homework...
I am speaking of checkpoints in American airports, CATSA does certain things we ask them too, as well as their own protocols, I never claimed to be an expert on CATSA. I was speaking of the pat down here and many of the complaints I have read and seen in the media and blogosphere do not jibe with what information I have - not that they didn't happen, just that it does not match with the information I have as to what is supposed to be happening.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by gsoltso
I can post the contact info for TSA and DHS here, I have done so several times previously and will be happy to do so again. There are ways to contact each individual airports TSA staff, there is the "Talk To TSA" site, there are a list of ways for someone to contact TSA and ultimately DHS if you are unhappy with the response you get from TSA. As to whom will hear or respond, I can't not say, but there are avenues of communication that you can use.
It won't do any good, nobody answers those anyway
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by gsoltso
I was speaking of the pat down here and many of the complaints I have read and seen in the media and blogosphere do not jibe with what information I have - not that they didn't happen, just that it does not match with the information I have as to what is supposed to be happening.
And therein lies the basis for what is probably the majority of complaints about the TSA, screeners gone wild.
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 8:34 am
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There's another problem here: we keep hearing "it's the responsibility of a (disabled) person to know the screening procedures and decide if they can go through with them", but we also keep hearing TSO's refuse to cite those procedures, claiming they're SSI.
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