Those of you who don't mind nude scans -- where DO you draw the line?
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Are you saying that the TSA profiles fat or big breasted passengers? Do you remember the noise generated by nipplegate? Do you not think that pulling every big breasted women won't cause a similar outrage? Where do I sign up for that duty.
What about big butts? Will you be spreading those cheeks for freedom?
Face it the machine is crap and can be beaten without much effort. It is a waste of money, a waste of time and it punishes the every day traveler.
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And neither the Shoe or Crotch bomber would have been picked up by such profiling - which as they are the last two cases of where someone has tried to blow up a US bound plane is a bit worrying
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I don't mind the scan, but I highly doubt it will help. It just there for show and take make everyone "feel" safe. They'll find some other way to get a it on board, they probably already have ways. Since they can't put it in their underware they'll stick it up their ....
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Depends (no pun intended) on where the alarm site is on your body. Allegedly, a pat down at the site where the bad item was seen. If they think they see something in a private place, I hate to think of what comes next, but I'd be willing to bet that you are off to a private room and told to strip. I think we'll find out soon enough.
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I would have been 22 and a lot more liberal and I think I would have still been offended by the use of this technology without a full disclosure and choice. After studying how easy the Nude-O-Scope is to beat I would have been horrified at the waste of money.
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Exactly. I'm glad you cite the bell curve. There will be people on either extremes, and many people just left or right if a majority opinion. Which means there will be varying degrees of opinions by a majority of people, so it shouldn't shock anyone that others are willing to accept something they themselves would not.
So whats happening with the "stick figure" images? Why couldn't these machines be set to just image anomalies instead of the persons body?
There are solutions for implementation of WBI technology but TSA seems only interested in generating porno.
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As far as I am concerned if TSA wants to do a "Virtual Strip Search" I want the operator in my sight so I can observe the operator and the image that is being generated.
So whats happening with the "stick figure" images? Why couldn't these machines be set to just image anomalies instead of the persons body?
There are solutions for implementation of WBI technology but TSA seems only interested in generating porno.
So whats happening with the "stick figure" images? Why couldn't these machines be set to just image anomalies instead of the persons body?
There are solutions for implementation of WBI technology but TSA seems only interested in generating porno.
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And I also want to know how they are going to differentiate an underwear bomber from sanitary napkins or adult diapers. Visual inspection of menstruating women?? Maybe a TSO here can answer our question, although I am going to guess its SSI...
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Absolutely. The fact that they are hiding the operator and the images generated from the public tells me there is something to be hidden. They tell us these are not pornographic images, but they hide them away. Something stinks here.
And I also want to know how they are going to differentiate an underwear bomber from sanitary napkins or adult diapers. Visual inspection of menstruating women?? Maybe a TSO here can answer our question, although I am going to guess its SSI...
And I also want to know how they are going to differentiate an underwear bomber from sanitary napkins or adult diapers. Visual inspection of menstruating women?? Maybe a TSO here can answer our question, although I am going to guess its SSI...
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What would have stopped the 9/11 terrorists was exactly what was put in place on 9/12 - secured cockpit doors and abandoning the policy of giving in to hijacker demands.
The 9/11 hijackers didn't have much more than boxcutters and threats as their weapons. While profiling may have taken away their boxcutters, how exactly would it have taken away their ability to make threats and to gain access to the cockpit?
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sure. Why don't you stick with facts on this broken record of yours? Your credibility would be dramatically increased. Much better to read something (relatively) factual rather than baseless nonsense and scaremongering Any chance you could do us all a favour and do that? It's clear that you have some huge issue with nudity. We got it.
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sure. Why don't you stick with facts on this broken record of yours? Your credibility would be dramatically increased. Much better to read something (relatively) factual rather than baseless nonsense and scaremongering Any chance you could do us all a favour and do that? It's clear that you have some huge issue with nudity. We got it.
You don't think some people get turned on by doing something generally considered taboo? Then try to explain the still-existing "peeping Tom" phenomenon in an age where pornographic images are so readily available to such persons and they can see more and more easily without engaging in "peeping Tom" behavior.