Mar 17, 2014, 3:08 pm
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MH370 Discussion and Speculation Thread
Mar 17, 2014, 1:09 am
#31
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...y.html?hpid=z2 Conflict over search for missing Malaysia Airlines plane reflects regional tensions
Mar 17, 2014, 1:13 am
#32
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That Tomnod image above is located here:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/api/malays...014/map/637975
There is a trick for converting from a map number to latitude and longitude. In the link in your browser location bar, change the word 'challenge' to 'api', and hit enter. You'll get an error message from the tomnod site with the latitude and longitude of the image tile you were looking at.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/api/malays...014/map/637975
There is a trick for converting from a map number to latitude and longitude. In the link in your browser location bar, change the word 'challenge' to 'api', and hit enter. You'll get an error message from the tomnod site with the latitude and longitude of the image tile you were looking at.
Mar 17, 2014, 1:31 am
#33
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This Tomnod image is being bandied about on PPRuNe.
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...014/map/637975
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...014/map/637975
Certainly interesting to see though
Mar 17, 2014, 1:49 am
#34
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Mar 17, 2014, 2:04 am
#35
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Malaysians not cooperating with US on possible terrorist involvement. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/wo...e-help.html?hp
Mar 17, 2014, 2:13 am
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This Tomnod image is being bandied about on PPRuNe.
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...014/map/637975
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/...014/map/637975
Mar 17, 2014, 2:33 am
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Mar 17, 2014, 4:21 am
#38
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...572_print.html
Mar 17, 2014, 4:22 am
#39
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The thing no-one seems to have seriously considered (in public at least), is that if the 'plan' did work and the plane is sat on the ground somewhere, then the perpetrators are definitely watching all the conferences and following the developments as well!
Mar 17, 2014, 4:31 am
#41
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Mar 17, 2014, 5:13 am
#42
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Cargo apparently was 3-4 tons of mangosteens. Hard to see why they would block off 50 seats for that, surely the seats would be worth more?
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/malaysi...ys-airline-ceo
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/malaysi...ys-airline-ceo
Mar 17, 2014, 5:14 am
#43
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Can't speak for the credibility but check it out (picked up from IBT): Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ‘Cyber Hijack’ Theory Emerges
Mar 17, 2014, 5:20 am
#44
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Cargo apparently was 3-4 tons of mangosteens. Hard to see why they would block off 50 seats for that, surely the seats would be worth more?
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/malaysi...ys-airline-ceo
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/malaysi...ys-airline-ceo
Mar 17, 2014, 5:26 am
#45
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Personally, I feel the scariest thing would be if the pilot knew that SATCOM still communicates when ACARS is taken offline. This was a fact that I assume none of us here knew about, and neither did MAS seem aware of it. Tracking the SATCOM signal to locate the plane was also unorthodox thinking, not conventional thinking.
Imagine if Satcom was offline. We would NOT know the plane was still either flying or landed safely at 8.11am, AND we would not have known it's possible last point of flight.
Already, it seems like a monumental feat on the part of the pilot/perpetrator, but I shudder to think where we'd be headed if the SATCOM thing was known beforehand.
Imagine if Satcom was offline. We would NOT know the plane was still either flying or landed safely at 8.11am, AND we would not have known it's possible last point of flight.
Already, it seems like a monumental feat on the part of the pilot/perpetrator, but I shudder to think where we'd be headed if the SATCOM thing was known beforehand.