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skofarrell Apr 28, 2004 11:32 am


Originally Posted by Counsellor
And (without changing my opinion that anonymous sniping is per se cowardly and despicable) I agree that it is not even in the same league as using second and third identities in a vendetta, or (worse still) signing other folks' handles to dings.

And I think I can guess who some of them were. Is there anything we can do, do you think, to undo the poisonous effect of this on the victims?

I was a hit by the "triple play" and I don't want it reversed. It had its intended effect and it cemented my formerly high opinion of the "hitter".

ozstamps Apr 28, 2004 11:48 am


Originally Posted by skofarrell

I have no knowledge of anyone who has signed a anonymous ding (a sling?) with a fake name. I am not "protecting" anyone.

ROTFLMAO.^^^^^

You are OUT of the loop all of a sudden? Hmmm. Who did YOU upset? ;)

How thick is a brick? Sure you do not have any idea.

It is one of your 'playmates' I suggest. Who so far has not come clean. Shame.

skofarrell Apr 28, 2004 11:55 am

I really don't know. Not sure what "loop" I'm supposedly in either. I've asked a couple of FTers, and so far for reasons of their own, no one wants to "out" anyone (publicly or privately). Maybe they are taking it up with Randy. I don't know because as I said before, not being a victim, it isn't really my bidness.

So, it seems, you're the only one with an issue.

BTW, isn't it like 4am in SYD?

ozstamps Apr 28, 2004 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by PremEx

And to the Evangelist that dinged me with negative and quite cowardly IMHO left negatives to others but signed my handle to them...I can't say I'm at all surprised. :(

Nothing less than forgery and a form of libel, IMHO. :(

Sorry to hear you too had this occur to you too PremEx.

I agree with you that it is forgery and a form of libel.

Interestingly the coward that did this to me, (i.e. using my name of a fake ding left on another member account) whilst he has many 1000s posts, and has been on FT since 1999 so should know better, is NOT an Evangelist.

To receive the "Evangelist" handle one needs to make 10,000 posts.

So clearly at least 2 yahoo intellectuals have been at work here. Three I think as Punki's coward is also not an Evangelist, and is not the coward that pretended to be me.

Now there are less than 10 such persons on FT. So narrowing it down to a VERY short list is not very difficult I guess:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=195391

It certainly was not ME, as I have left no dings, pings, pongs or gongs for anyone at any time.

And it clearly was not PremEx.

The number of possible Evangelists is thus shrinking. ;)

Football Fan Apr 29, 2004 1:43 am


Originally Posted by FewMiles
Well, Counsellor, it is one thing for me to ding you anonymously knowing full well that it would be revealed the next day. Believe me, that was a conscious decision on my part. :)

That surely also explains going several times to the same user and giving anonymous dings and rolleyes for harmless posts long before you knew it would be revealed? Nice try to re-write history.

alanw Apr 29, 2004 1:56 am

Oh, for crying out loud! Don't you people have jobs, or a plane to catch? Hours and hours of pompous bloviating and moralizing day after day is over the line, especially coming from people with little room to scold others on ethics and morality.

I got called names, told to **** off, was accused of being a communist, and scores of other nasty things, all anonymously. Almost all from people I don't even know. But at the end of the day, none of it matters. Not one bit.

Let it go! Take a trip! Have a drink! But for everyones' sake, give it a rest.

Football Fan Apr 29, 2004 1:58 am


Originally Posted by alanw
Let it go! Take a trip! Have a drink! But for everyones' sake, give it a rest.

Nice advice from sunny Barcelona :).

ScottC Apr 29, 2004 9:18 am


Originally Posted by ozstamps
Sorry to hear you too had this occur to you too PremEx.

I agree with you that it is forgery and a form of libel.

Interestingly the coward that did this to me, (i.e. using my name of a fake ding left on another member account) whilst he has many 1000s posts, and has been on FT since 1999 so should know better, is NOT an Evangelist.

To receive the "Evangelist" handle one needs to make 10,000 posts.

So clearly at least 2 yahoo intellectuals have been at work here. Three I think as Punki's coward is also not an Evangelist, and is not the coward that pretended to be me.

Now there are less than 10 such persons on FT. So narrowing it down to a VERY short list is not very difficult I guess:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=195391

It certainly was not ME, as I have left no dings, pings, pongs or gongs for anyone at any time.

And it clearly was not PremEx.

The number of possible Evangelists is thus shrinking. ;)


I am also not behind this.

anonplz Apr 29, 2004 9:30 am


Originally Posted by ScottC
I am also not behind this.

No, you wouldn't be. As I told someone else, there are members here who speak frankly and without mincing words, and you are one of them (that's a compliment! :) ). No need for you to play games.

Dovster Apr 29, 2004 9:40 am


Originally Posted by ScottC
I am also not behind this.

Scott, I have no doubt that you were not behind this but I don't think we should start announcing either our innocence nor speculate on who might be guilty.

That can be even more destructive to the board than the original misdeeds were.

Again, a victim (and by that I mean someone whose name was used, not someone who was dinged by a faker) and who knows for a fact who the guilty person was can decide to make that information public.

Randy can also decide whether or not to publicize the names of the guilty.

The rest of us should stay out of the guilt/innocence question before we find ourselves unknowingly destroying the real reputations of people who have done nothing wrong.

ozstamps Apr 29, 2004 10:45 am


Originally Posted by Dovster

Again, a victim (and by that I mean someone whose name was used, not someone who was dinged by a faker) and who knows for a fact who the guilty person was can decide to make that information public.

Isn't that pretty much exactly what PremEx did here? I can certainly add without them needing to verify it, further Evangelists that no way in the world did this. So can you, so can anyone else. It clearly is down to a VERY short list already.

Cholula Apr 29, 2004 11:17 am


Originally Posted by Dovster
I don't think we should start announcing either our innocence nor speculate on who might be guilty.

Not quite so fast, Dovster. I'm 41.50000% of an Evangelist and I wasn't responsible either.
BTW, congratulations on reaching 20% of an Evangelist with your last post. ^

Dovster Apr 29, 2004 11:23 am


Originally Posted by Cholula
BTW, congratulations on reaching 20% of an Evangelist with your last post. ^

Thanks, Cholula. I am particularly proud that I managed to do it without having any one-word posts in Omni games!

fredmartens Apr 29, 2004 4:16 pm


Originally Posted by alanw
Let it go! Take a trip! Have a drink! But for everyones' sake, give it a rest.

Right on, AW!

May I humbly also add some additional suggestions to these:

a) take a laxative
b) ingest mass quantities of prozac / xanax / valium
c) smell the roses
d) all of the above plus AlanW's suggestions

I'd expound further on the merits of this advice, but I have a plane to catch! C'mon gang, it's no wonder there are political and border wars...this is just a BBS and people can't get along! Peace! Love! Bobby Sherman!

renila Apr 29, 2004 6:39 pm

wow...
 
gosh golly gee...

every time I return from a Flyertalk Vacation, all heck seems to be breaking loose...

my apologies to a couple posters upthread to whom I sent approvals without notes - me and my little brain didn't realize I didn't have enough posts to do it - and they will be getting obscure gray boxes, I guess?

this is what happens to ex-AA EXPLAT's fallen from grace to lowly gold

(and I reread the FAQ before posting, I did! I did!)


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