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ClueByFour Apr 19, 2004 5:00 pm

prevailing sanity
 
I'm in favor of disabling it outside of coupon connection entirely (and I can feel the dings coming my way even as I type).

Failing that, don't make anonymity a choice--any reputation "pings" or "dings" should carry the signature of the originating user.

I fear, however, that even making reputation a non-anonymous thing, folks (some in OMNI, some not) will simply wail away on each other anyway, not caring that they cannot do so anonymously. I see this as a problem which will ultimately become a drain on Randy's (or the moderators') time, which is a bad thing.

cactuspete Apr 19, 2004 5:34 pm


Originally Posted by jfe
I got a a ding for a french joke :confused:

I guess I shouldn't be upset about it, just amazing how people use the system ;)

Yes, indeed. :( Those French jokes will get you every time.

jfe Apr 19, 2004 5:36 pm


Originally Posted by cactuspete
Yes, indeed. :( Those French jokes will get you every time.

But I proved you wrong regarding OMNI moderators and French jokes ;)

skofarrell Apr 19, 2004 5:38 pm


Originally Posted by Dovster
Firstly, it would do no good. There was absolutely no personal attack in letter you censored. (If you really and truly want, I still have it and can reprint it here to prove my point.).

I still have it too, and I still think your post was directed at another poster, not the topic. That is why you were "censored".


Originally Posted by Dovster
Secondly, I think that a person, and in this case I am using that term extremely loosely, who expresses his hope for the nuclear destruction of a country -- not to mention the deaths of American civilians -- deserves a personal attack. There is certainly no point in trying to logically debate someone who displays such a blood lust (yet prides himself on going to "anti-war" demonstrations).

Do you think that anything posted on the internet is real? Or do you think people just troll because they have no lives or nothing better to do? Like any boor or bully, the troll posts for the sake of stirring things up. The smarter strategy is to ignore the troll. They always go away.

cactuspete Apr 19, 2004 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by jfe
But I proved you wrong regarding OMNI moderators and French jokes ;)

Well, speak for yourself. ;)

ozstamps Apr 19, 2004 5:55 pm

At the risk of getting back to THIS thread topic, and leaving old OMNI scores where they should be left .... ;)



Originally Posted by jfe

I know that this feature is for use at the Coupon Connection, and they are still trying to figure out how to isolate it to that forum only.

Why not get rid of this, and turn it on when they have figured it out?

Would that make too much sense?

To me this is nothing but a feature that has created nothing but grief among some members, and just another way to create controversy.

Is it useful in the Coupon Connection to begin with? You can only do reputation points once in a blue moon.

Could not agree more. ^

This silly "reputation" thing is THE most divisive and negative feature of the 'new FT', and why on earth Randy has persisted with it so long does surprise me.

The way ANYONE safeguards against a dud trade on Coupon Connection is simple - and has always been simple - do a search of all that person's previous posts and read them carefully. Has always worked 100% perfectly for me. You can pick a freebie hound or coupon trader from a "normal" Flyertalker within minutes by doing just that. The "reputation" feature would assist not one jot for Coupon Connection as far as I can see.

Clearly the small core of immature 14 year old mindset "usual suspect" yahoos are wreaking havoc with this feature right now - as doc's post below illustrates, and several others in this thread have experienced similar dings.


Originally Posted by doc

Does this actually surprise anyone? :(


Early this morning I received yet another "ding," for this, another two year old thread:

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"10K Post Club Apr 19, 04 2:12 am Years later, same old stuff Glen"

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...49#post1778349

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Do I really think that Glen is actually responsible for this? :rolleyes:

Does anyone? :confused:

For that matter, should FT'ers really care? "Reputation?" :eek:

-Mark

No doc - it was NOT me leaving that childish reputation point on your account. I have left no reputation comments for anyone at any time, and in fact turned off the silly feature from day #1 as like many others I could foresee the problems looming. More and more folks are chosing to go "black box" in the past week I have noticed.

HOWEVER, seeing some coward has chosen to leave my name on your comment, I'd urge Randy or techs (with your permission of course doc) to look into it further. We are told that FT Admin is able to discern which resident intellectual left any comment, so I hope that person is found and dealt with.

Will this mean extra work and hassles for Admin? Yes. But .. they turned the silly thing on, after all. ;)

If others have noticed similar clearly unlikely negative comments being left and signed by unlikely FT'ers I'd urge them to contact Randy and Admin, as a clear pattern might then emerge they can act upon.

Cholula Apr 19, 2004 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by Vaze
I can see where to add to a posters reputation, but I must be denser than the average FT as I don't see how to view reputations - anyone care to enlighten me? or does this post merit a ding on GP? :p

Hi Vaze. I don't believe you can view anyone's reputation other than to see the number of green or red squares under their name. Everybody started with one green square and some now have two, three or more green squares. The more green squares, theoretically the better your FT reputation. You'll probably not see any red squares as there is an option to turn off your reputation ( don't we sometimes wish we could do this in real life!!) and those that have or expect to accumulate red squares just turn off the reputation feature. This will appear as a black square under their name.
And, to be fair, some wish not to play along with this reputation feature and have turned it off just for drill.
You can view your own reputation points as well as any comments...pro or con....on the bottom of your "MyFlyerTalk" page.
Hopefully this answers your question.

ozstamps Apr 19, 2004 7:45 pm


Originally Posted by

Cholula

The more green squares, theoretically the better your FT reputation.

I am very glad you added the word "theoretically".

This has become a cute "game" for many - with overt trawling, starting and adding to a: "add a point to my reputation and I'll reciprocate" conga line thread, emailing, PM'ing, and downright begging others (to me included) to add to their alleged "reputation".

It thus serves as no accurate indication whatever as to the value or otherwise of that person's posts. The opposite result is very possible if you think on it.

And as we can see above, the cute little "game" for some now extends to adding negative comments to worthwhile posters, and signing fake names of other FT'ers to them.

doc Apr 19, 2004 7:49 pm

Having now heard back from Glen personally, I can at last officially confirm that he asserts he did not do the "dinging!" So surprising that I am truly shocked! :o

Does anyone here, no less Randy, really need my permission to investigate or to do anything Glen? I'd think not! ;)

BTW, apparently at least one other FT feels this "stuff" is great, as they "dinged" me again on that very same thread! :confused:

Anonymously this time! :eek:

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10K Post Club Apr 19, 04 7:46 pm

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...49#post1778349

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How will I ever get any sleep tonight! :D

Strangely, I've been accused of being disruptive/divisive/attacking/retaliating and so on by some. Perhaps more curious is the fact that even by essentially not posting on FT in an ongoing earnest effort to help "keep the peace" this happens! :(

There must be a lesson in this somewhere, I guess! :rolleyes:

In any case, I sincerely wish FT the very best in resolving this latest affront concerning "identity theft/impersonation/harassment/trolling/whatever" and I'm confident that the situation will be quickly remedied in a manner that benefits all! Naturally, if I can help in any way, as always, I surely will! My best to ALL FT'ers worldwide! :)

Respectfully "lurking",

-Mark

Punki Apr 19, 2004 8:13 pm

I too hope that Randy takes this new abuse seriously and permanently bans the offenders, and.............................keeps the reputation feature, despite the fact that I just receive another "coward ding" on this thread.

Actually the reputation feature is grand fun! :D I try to use my 3 points a day to spread some love. You are sooooooo right--there are way to many wonderful posts out there to even think of wasting a reputation point on a ding. The lovely comments I have received far outweigh the foolish dings from "those who are without identity". ;)

ClueByFour Apr 19, 2004 8:31 pm

The last 6 posts
 
Are exactly why reputation should be disabled outside of Coupon Connection.

There are far better uses of Webflyer's (Randy et al) time than chasing down anonymous "dingers."

I'm sure I'll get hit for posting this, but my point above has illustrated itself in the span of a few short hours...

Cholula Apr 19, 2004 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by ozstamps
It thus serves as no accurate indication whatever as to the value or otherwise of that person's posts.

This reputation system has only been up and running for three weeks now and, IMO, the "Clorets" are shaking out about where I'd think they would. Those that have multiple greens are those that I would have expected to have multiples. And, Glen, no disrespect meant as I consider you a friend I've never met but those that have shut off the reputation switch are pretty much who I thought would do so.

Canarsie Apr 19, 2004 9:05 pm

Pete Moss, Newest FlyerTalk Member
 

Originally Posted by Punki
I too hope that Randy takes this new abuse seriously and permanently bans the offenders, and.............................keeps the reputation feature, despite the fact that I just receive another "coward ding" on this thread.

You received cow dung from this thread?

Talk about a fertile ground for discussion...

Punki Apr 19, 2004 9:17 pm

Now, Cow Dung, has to become a classic.
 
LOL. I thought that was so funny, Canarsie, that I tried to give you some love, but FT says I am all out of love for the next 24 hours. Well consider yourself loved anyway. :D

anonplz Apr 19, 2004 9:19 pm


Originally Posted by doc
How will I ever get any sleep tonight!

Nyquil?

:D LOL


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