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Feldspar Mar 15, 2004 8:11 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jfe:
my "private email" with you has been seen more than the Paris Hilton video (which BTW you had no right in posting)
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And you and skofarrell had no business broadcasting to the world insinuations that I had hacked my way into OMNI or had otherwise stolen the proper password.

If you send me an email falsely accusing somebody of something, you shouldn't be surprised it ends up being shared.

By the way, why did you never take any action against the posters who hurled personal attacks at me, such as the accusation that I'm a sleeper-cell terrorist?

Were you too busy spreading conspiracy theories about me to notice that I never said anything negative about another poster?

As I said, thanks for the entertainment. The way you talk out of both sides of your mouth is a skill which you ought to consider selling to Ringling Brothers.

jfe Mar 15, 2004 9:00 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Feldspar:
And you and skofarrell had no business broadcasting to the world insinuations that I had hacked my way into OMNI or had otherwise stolen the proper password.</font>
Really!

Just where did I go broadcasting, or in any way shape or form insinuated that you had hacked your way into OMNI. And yes, you can be a member of FT that is older than dirt, but 48 posts hardly can be perceived as an active member of this community.

All I did was to send you an email trying to clarify things, and see what was happening with your posts.

If we thought that there was a stolen password, or an incident of hacking was due to the events that happened a few weeks ago. In which the moderators forum, and both Gaucho100K and Punki, long time members of FT had their accounts hacked. It wasn't a far fetched conclusion to assume that something like that had happened.



<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Feldspar:
If you send me an email falsely accusing somebody of something, you shouldn't be surprised it ends up being shared.
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Again, we the moderators have received worse emails, including yours, and we would never post them here. It's just basic courtesy.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Feldspar:
Were you too busy spreading conspiracy theories about me to notice that I never said anything negative about another poster?
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Which it is funny that you should mention this, as this is the same type of accusations that we had had in the past. And your limited involvement in FT makes this rather strange.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Feldspar:
As I said, thanks for the entertainment. The way you talk out of both sides of your mouth is a skill which you ought to consider selling to Ringling Brothers.</font>

Ah, never mind, I was going to say something mean to you, but I have a little more class than that http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif


Dovster Mar 15, 2004 9:05 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Feldspar:
By the way, why did you never take any action against the posters who hurled personal attacks at me, such as the accusation that I'm a sleeper-cell terrorist?
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Absolutely right!

Terrorist organizations spend a lot of time and money in planting sleeper cell agents and require them to be intelligent. It is very obvious that Feldspar is not one of them.

Feldspar, be careful! They are out to get you. Don't ask me how I know, but suffice it to say that George Bush personally arranged for the Mossad to have you liquidated.

They are going to use the lights off/lights on signal to notify the killer to strike. From now on, pay careful attention to the warning lights in airplanes. If you happen to notice that shortly after take off all the "Seat Belt" lights on your plane are suddenly turned off -- and then relit right before landing, you will know that the signal has been given.

Even worse, if the "No Smoking" lights are left on the for the entire flight, you will know that the secret agent has been given instructions to make it a particularly painful assassination.

Edited to add:

(God! I *love* feeding paranoia!)

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Sir Dovster, OBE
(Omni Boycotter Extraordinaire)

[This message has been edited by Dovster (edited Mar 15, 2004).]

GUWonder Mar 15, 2004 9:40 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Dovster:
(God! I *love* feeding paranoia!)
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Too much jest, too little of real feeding. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

hfly Mar 16, 2004 2:14 am

Goldlust,

Whether I particularly like you or not is not even the question. I questioned your own backbone as having said that you were leaving for good, and then coming back. Where exactly did I lie?

I can't believe that I am stooping to your 12 year old antics, but you stood as a "foreign" candidate way back when, and therefore were elected through a form of affirmative action. I posted several residences, so was in with the general "pool". Ask Randy for the vote results yourself.

Don't be so smug or smart, maybe then you will realize how foolish you come off to the rest of the world.

I really think you should question the fact that although one or two people here may agree with a fraction of what you say due to "principles" no one really seems to much care for what you have been posting (and yes, you have violated countless TOS).

skofarrell Mar 16, 2004 4:12 am

Pointless to continue this discussion.

I will clarify one thing for the railbirds out there: At no time did I accuse anyone of hacking their way into anything. I was more concerned that a member of Randy's staff was automatically approving OMNI posting applications. All of the OMNI moderators were under that impression that it took more than 20 posts and a 6 month account to get access to the forum.



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Sean
aka: skofarrell
Moderator, OMNI & American Express

Feldspar Mar 16, 2004 6:50 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jfe:

Again, we the moderators have received worse emails, including yours, and we would never post them here. It's just basic courtesy.


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Another lie about me.

So now in addition to being an unknown hacker, I am sending naughty emails to jfe. This new lie is easily disproven. Here is that "worse email, including [mine]" I sent to jfe. Obviously it goes beyond the bounds of all decency:

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From: Feld Spar [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 1:12 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: OMNI

Thank you for your email.

My approach is to cite a link to a topic of interest. I never knew this was
a violation of general courtesy or the TOS.

My approach is to avoid attacking other posters. I never knew this was a
violation of general courtesy or the TOS.

My approach is to post a view which doesn't happen to always agree with
yours or with somebody else's. I never knew this was a violation of general
courtesy or the TOS.

And a poster or two just generally gets irritated because they don't agree
with the substance of the link, or my views. Good golly, let's just all
agree to agree on everything. It's much neater that way. Less debate.
More conformity. Since when is it part of "general courtesy" or the TOS
that those who want to attack me as a "terrorist" an "extremist," or
somebody "off his meds" are to be rewarded with my suspension?

Face it, you don't like my posts because you don't agree with them, not
because of anything I've written. Thanks for throwing your weight around
against free speech.



jfe Mar 16, 2004 6:56 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Feldspar:

From: Feld Spar [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 1:12 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: OMNI

Thank you for your email.

My approach is to cite a link to a topic of interest. I never knew this was
a violation of general courtesy or the TOS.

My approach is to avoid attacking other posters. I never knew this was a
violation of general courtesy or the TOS.

My approach is to post a view which doesn't happen to always agree with
yours or with somebody else's. I never knew this was a violation of general
courtesy or the TOS.

And a poster or two just generally gets irritated because they don't agree
with the substance of the link, or my views. Good golly, let's just all
agree to agree on everything. It's much neater that way. Less debate.
More conformity. Since when is it part of "general courtesy" or the TOS
that those who want to attack me as a "terrorist" an "extremist," or
somebody "off his meds" are to be rewarded with my suspension?

Face it, you don't like my posts because you don't agree with them, not
because of anything I've written. Thanks for throwing your weight around
against free speech.

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Oh yeah, explain your last couple of sentences in there.

And yes, your email shows no courtesy whatsoever, but, IMHO, a little bit of attitude.

As I said, it is worse, not the worst ever http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Feldspar Mar 16, 2004 6:58 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by skofarrell:
At no time did I accuse anyone of hacking their way into anything.


Also posted by skofarrell

Not quite sure who Feldspar is, but we're shutting this down until Randy has a chance to review it.

http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...ML/021032.html

Emailed by skofarrell

The moderators are in agreement that your account is going to be suspended
immediately from OMNI until the boards owner has a chance to review... who gave you access to the forum.
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Hmmmmmm............. There is this intruder in OMNI, see, and we don't know who gave him the ability to post in OMNI, see, and we are concerned, see, so we're going to lock this down and refer it for review by the site owner. NOT that this person is an unauthorized hacker or intruder or anything like that...... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

[This message has been edited by Feldspar (edited Mar 16, 2004).]

birdstrike Mar 16, 2004 7:41 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Feldspar:
Hmmmmmm............. There is this intruder in OMNI, see, and we don't know who gave him the ability to post in OMNI, see, and we are concerned, see, so we're going to lock this down and refer it for review by the site owner. NOT that this person is an unauthorized hacker or intruder or anything like that...... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif
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until the boards owner [has a chance to] review... who gave you access to the forum

Not, perhaps, as a technical write would say it.

Maybe: "The boards owner, who gave you access to the forum, has a chance ro review" would be clearer to you.



[This message has been edited by birdstrike (edited Mar 16, 2004).]

skofarrell Mar 16, 2004 8:49 am

And we're still not quite sure who you are. Who do you fly? What programs do you participate in? You only seem interested in politics and OMNI, which of course is odd given the nature (points/miles/travel) of this board...


Feldspar Mar 16, 2004 8:59 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by skofarrell:
And we're still not quite sure who you are. Who do you fly? What programs do you participate in? You only seem interested in politics and OMNI, which of course is odd given the nature (points/miles/travel) of this board...

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Since you keep demanding I identify myself, and using this demand as justification that I be banned from this site, maybe you should read this:

Is a certain degree of anonymity permitted or actively discouraged?

Anonymity is highly regarded on FlyerTalk, which is why we post our privacy policy and allow members to choose whether they want their personal email displayed to the FlyerTalk public. With the introduction of private messaging, each member will have the ability to communicate with one another in private without having to expose their personal email address. Part of respecting other members is respecting their right to privacy.

http://www.flyertalk.com/helpfr.shtml



[This message has been edited by Feldspar (edited Mar 16, 2004).]

skofarrell Mar 16, 2004 9:18 am

At no time have I "demanded" anything, I'm just asking.

At no time have I suggested that you be "banned" from this site. I have recommneded that you be prohibited from posting on OMNI until such a time that you learn how it works, and develop a less obnoxious posting style.


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