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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 9:30 am
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time out for Feldspar please!!

One fine Sunday morning, at least FOUR useless threads from this poster, in addition to many trolling posts.

I've emailed the fine mods of Omni.

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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 10:26 am
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So, proper debate is to accuse a poster of being a terroist sleeper or (these next ones are your words) an "extremist troll."

Now having started with one or two associates in launching personal attacks against me, you demand that I be banned because you actually disagree with my posts - not that I ever posted anything about you, ever.

How utterly predictable your behavior is.

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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 10:34 am
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I have made no comment on your content, ie "sleeper" in that thread.

I merely noted that you do nothing but copy and paste links from very flamatory websites in the hopes of generating disruption in Omni.

In fact, I actually agree some of the content from the website you have posted, but the way you have just gone about and copied and pasted BS in Omni is excessive and must stop.

Omni is not your playground to post willy nilly. I hope you learn this lesson.

PS - I have no "associates" in Omni. I am my own person and I do not need associates.

Have a wonderful Sunday.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Feldspar:
So, proper debate is to accuse a poster of being a terroist sleeper or (these next ones are your words) an "extremist troll."

Now having started with one or two associates in launching personal attacks against me, you demand that I be banned because you actually disagree with my posts - not that I ever posted anything about you, ever.

How utterly predictable your behavior is.

http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr.../021010-2.html
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 10:34 am
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OMNI is OMNI.

Expessing an opinion does not appear to (yet) be a serious breach of the TOS even there?

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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 10:37 am
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Please read the OP's threads. He does nothing except copy links from external websites (especially flammatory ones) and post them as threads, adding zero value whatsoever.

You've never seen me complain about another poster's viewpoints here in ORP. I am complaining about how this poster is attempting to disrupt Omni by posting junk/links willy nilly.

Let's get the facts straight, ok, Glen?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps:
OMNI is OMNI.

Expessing an opinion does not appear to (yet) be a serious breach of the TOS even there?

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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 10:39 am
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PS Glen - in Omni or wherever else, posting one or two links, fine, I don't care. This person posted 4 - 6 threads in the space of ONE hour, that is generally related, the same useless junk. I call that trolling, and adding to the noise ratio.

I can post links all day long until I'm blue in the face, but I will expect to be canned from Omni.

This is not appropriate for Omni.

EDIT: Sean just locked 10 threads from the poster, all basically the same junk in different iterations. If that's not disruption, I'm not sure what is!

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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 10:44 am
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Now taking bets on how many days OMNI has left to live?
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 10:50 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by anonplz:
Now taking bets on how many days OMNI has left to live? </font>
Omni will live quite a long time

I care, so I stepped to the plate to stop this BS before it got too far. If many people care (and I suspect a great majority of Omni posters and Flyertalkers do care), Omni will be just fine for a long time.

Thanks to our Omni moderators as well

EDIT: darn, I just noticed I wasted my 6000th post on this junk

happy thoughts, happy thoughts...

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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 10:57 am
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Yes, of those 10 now-closed threads (no two of which were on the same topic), there were no less than 99 replies beyond the original posts. Most of them managed to avoid personal attacks against other posters.

Of course, there are always a few exceptions - there are some who would prefer name-calling to debate, and others who prefer no debate at all. This latter group seems to be in the ascendency today.

Is it better to cut off debate and attack other posters?

Or do we prefer to foster free speech and discussion?

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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 10:59 am
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There were 99 replies because you were new, and did not prove yourself to be a pest. Like I said - one or two links, fine. But you clearly crossed the boundary.

Now you've made your reputation in Omni and FlyerTalk, and you are going to have to live with that.

Cheers.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Feldspar:
Yes, of those 10 now-closed threads (no two of which were on the same topic), there were no less than 99 replies beyond the original posts. Most of them managed to avoid personal attacks against other posters.

Of course, there are always a few exceptions - there are some who would prefer name-calling to debate, and others who prefer no debate at all. This latter group seems to be in the ascendency today.

Is it better to cut off debate and attack other posters?

Or do we prefer to foster free speech and discussion?

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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:00 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by UALOneKPlus:
Omni will live quite a long time </font>


I was just making a joke.

Of course it's obvious you care about OMNI. Next to miles and points, I think MOST FTer's care about OMNI. It's mostly fun. And an e-place to shoot the crap with each other.

I do also hope OMNI stays open after the transition to vBulletin, but I have no crystal ball, and Randy has hinted that there has been limited discussion about closing OMNI, so who knows?

I just feel that there simply has to be some viable solution to whatever problems/concerns have given rise to the notion of closing OMNI - aside from closing OMNI.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">EDIT: darn, I just noticed I wasted my 6000th post on this junk

happy thoughts, happy thoughts...</font>


Congrats! (I think - )
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:02 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by anonplz:
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Thanks bud!!

I'll toast to Omni after the transition, with a Corona with Lime.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:25 am
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I just received an email from skofarrell accusing me of hacking my way into OMNI posting privileges.

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From : Sean O'Farrell &lt;[email protected]&gt;
Sent : Sunday, March 14, 2004 12:23 PM
To : "'Feld Spar'" &lt;[email protected]&gt;, &lt;[email protected]&gt;, &lt;[email protected]&gt;
CC : &lt;[email protected]&gt;, &lt;[email protected]&gt;
Subject : RE: OMNI Personal Attacks - Feldspar

The moderators are in agreement that your account is going to be suspended
immediately from OMNI until the boards owner has a change to review your
posts and who gave you access to the forum. As soon as that is done, it
will be up to him if you can start posting again.

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I don't appreciate such accusations, especially when it follows personal attacks about me being a "sleeper cell terrorist," an "extremist," or somebody "gone off his meds."

I am the victim of personal attacks, and the best the moderator can do is accuse me of being a hacker.

To stop this nonsense now, I'm posting here the copy of the email I received from Randy Petersen giving me OMNI posting privileges.

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From : Randy Petersen &lt;[email protected]&gt;
Sent : Monday, December 29, 2003 4:38 PM
To : Feld Spar &lt;[email protected]&gt;
Subject : Re: OMNI POSTING PRIVILEGES

| | | Inbox


You are cleared to land in OMNI. Please keep your opinions about other
members in the upright position and remember, OMNI just may be the best part
of your day.

Thanks for your support of FlyerTalk.
Randy

&gt; I would like to request omni posting privileges. Thank you.
&gt;
&gt; Jim Feldspar
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:34 am
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UALOneKPlus - point taken - I was responding purely to the link above on the thread started by Feld Spar. It was higlighting the atrocious and arguably illegal behaviour of the USA in interning without charge for seemingly an eternity a bevy of totally innocent people (many of whom the USA has admitted thus by releasing them) at Gitmo Bay in Cuba.

On that score I agree he or she has the 100% right to post the link, and I personally side entirely with that viewpoint, as IMHO innocent Australians are also interned there.

As for the other threads - you did not reference them, but if they were out of line and got locked, I feel sure there may well be more to this story - I have no idea.

I understand from an email this poster just sent me presumably due to my post above,(not guaranteeing this text is kosher, but it appears to be, based on other banning emails I have been shown from them) that the OMNI mods have now banned this poster on this basis:

"Your recent posts have irritated some members of the board, not so much by
what you want to say, but by your approach.

We encourage freedom to express one's ideas, but needless to say, your activity can be seen as suspect to some.

I am temporarily suspending your posting rights in OMNI until we have a chance to discuss this via email, and clarify any concerns that have been expresses by other members.

Could you please at least introduce yourself to us?


Which at first read sounds pretty curious grounds to me at least.

Anyway, I am in Zanzibar now, sitting in Stone Town with a large cold Kiliminjaro Beer, and will now resume my siesta, and will leave OMNI to you folks.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:45 am
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You are accusing Sean of saying that you hacked your way into Omni???

Please Lord O Mighty, that's a rich one. Can you read English?? You might want to re-read his email.

I'm quoting your entire post in case you decide to edit later:

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Feldspar:
I just received an email from skofarrell accusing me of hacking my way into OMNI posting privileges.
---------------------------------------
From : Sean O'Farrell &lt;[email protected]&gt;
Sent : Sunday, March 14, 2004 12:23 PM
To : "'Feld Spar'" &lt;[email protected]&gt;, &lt;[email protected]&gt;, &lt;[email protected]&gt;
CC : &lt;[email protected]&gt;, &lt;[email protected]&gt;
Subject : RE: OMNI Personal Attacks - Feldspar

The moderators are in agreement that your account is going to be suspended
immediately from OMNI until the boards owner has a change to review your
posts and who gave you access to the forum. As soon as that is done, it
will be up to him if you can start posting again.

------------------------------------------

I don't appreciate such accusations, especially when it follows personal attacks about me being a "sleeper cell terrorist," an "extremist," or somebody "gone off his meds."

I am the victim of personal attacks, and the best the moderator can do is accuse me of being a hacker.

To stop this nonsense now, I'm posting here the copy of the email I received from Randy Petersen giving me OMNI posting privileges.

-------------------------------------------


From : Randy Petersen &lt;[email protected]&gt;
Sent : Monday, December 29, 2003 4:38 PM
To : Feld Spar &lt;[email protected]&gt;
Subject : Re: OMNI POSTING PRIVILEGES

| | | Inbox


You are cleared to land in OMNI. Please keep your opinions about other
members in the upright position and remember, OMNI just may be the best part
of your day.

Thanks for your support of FlyerTalk.
Randy

&gt; I would like to request omni posting privileges. Thank you.
&gt;
&gt; Jim Feldspar
&gt;
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