Mwenenzi

Level (via IB) is an unusual arrangement.---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_(airline_brand)
Level brand is not a OW airline. Nor is it listed as an IB affiliate
https://www.oneworld.com/members
https://www.oneworld.com/members/iberia

HA is being taken over by AS. With AS will be one frequent frequent flyer program that will adsorb the HA ffp. Would expect HA marketed flights to credit to other ffp's just the as AS flights do now.. Do see any comparison between HA and Level.

dvs7310

Agree, I don't see the AS and HA merger as anything different than US and AA for example, if I recall correctly they operated as independent brands for a period of time and if AS is to be believed then AS and HA will continue to operate as independent brands indefinitely. I can definitely see a use case in the future for a new name for the combined airline since neither current airline name really fits the combined brand, and even AS doesn't have it's primary focus in Alaska anymore, they're really a Lower 48 west coast carrier with one giant hub in SEA and 3 smaller hubs in PDX, SFO, and LAX. Don't get me wrong, ANC is still an important hub for them too, but I think these days SEA is much bigger. It's almost like if Aero California or Air Florida still existed and had their headquarters and main hub in Texas.

LupineChemist

Level long haul flights are operated on IB metal by IB crews on an IB certificate on IB flight numbers (indeed I've had fully IB flights with real J painted in Level livery). For all intents and purposes, it's Iberia but just sold as a different brand and not as part of Oneworld. It's not like EI which is a completely separate airline owned by IAG. Level isn't an airline at all as it doesn't have an operating certificate, it's just a branding operation.

As AS is planning on keeping the Hawaiian brand but all be part of a single airline, it's a similar arrangement. So it's not guaranteed to be part of OW (though I'd think it's likely)

remyn

Agree that AS/HA have been a bit squishy with the language, but HA's CEO made it clear in an interview with Forbes last week (not allowed to post links yet, but it's easy to find):

dvs7310

I wasn't aware that IB was operating Level that way, but don't think that's even remotely what's expected with the AS / HA merger. AS has indicated they'll be one master airline with two different flight codes.

What IB is doing with Level sounds more similar to what A3 does with OA, which is quite odd to be frank. You can get benefits on OA flights with A3 status but not any other *A status yet they operate as OA on nearly all domestic flights. Absolute farce to avoid *A benefits on domestic flights.

khabah

As per this announcement from oneworld issued today, Fiji Airways is joining the alliance as a full member within the next twelve months, bringing the total number of members to 15 once Oman Air joins later this year. Good thing too since the whole 'connect' thing didn't go anywhere, and I prefer having a simplified structure of either being a fully participating member or not a member at all.

khabah

ademanuele

Things will be really interesting if/when Hawaiian joins, looks like an update to the oneworld Explorer rules

Is there any prospect of any airlines joining that will improve access to Africa and South America?

pochi

Per some sources said, RwandAir is trying to enter oneworld

dvs7310

Excellent news, looking forward to that on next year's RTW tickets. Though don't count your eggs until they hatch, lots of rumors around that WY (Oman) is dropping out. I haven't seen anything official yet, but there's been zero updates either when it was supposed to happen this quarter or next quarter.

Have you found anything recent about that? Last I saw was a couple of years ago from QR. I can see it still happening, and we really need some intra-Africa connectivity but has been quite a while with no news.

pochi

The latest would be 2022, sadly.
Just like MIAT said they're trying to enter oneworld connect but no news after August 2023....

remyn

One Mile at a Time just posted an article about Oman - says still happening, and in 2024.

(Again can�t link yet but article is easy to find).

�Two years later, at the June 2024 IATA annual general meeting in Dubai, the CEO of oneworld has confirmed that Oman Air is on track to join the alliance in the coming months.�

dvs7310

Certainly hope so, despite their shrinking network and moving towards an O&D and regional model there may still be good use cases for them. But with the direction that WY is going, definitely WB and FJ are likely to be bigger gems in the network, especially for RTW xONEx tickets.

Gardyloo

Oman Air's joining is in the same news release as the word on Fiji.

oneworld Marks 25 Years & Outlines Enhanced Customer Focus | oneworld


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LupineChemist

What's the destination supposed to be that ended up marked at 0�, 0�?

Mwenenzi

Fiji Airways route map unclear as it includes (dotted) code shares.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiji_Airways
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_destinations
Will be an interesting addition to OW *ONE* fares. Were already in *GLOB* fares
OW media -- oneworld Says “Bula” To Fiji Airways As Its 15th Full Member Airline

The Oneworld Connect membership for FJ made no sense and added little. Lounge access rules were particularly confusing. FJ were ff partners before some of the OW airlines before OW Connect