We have a SYD-LHR leg on an ex-ARN AONE5 and wanted to book on 30/06/09 into QF31 A380 F. Guess what, 9R and 4F (13 seats of 14) are available but there is no A availability.

Hmmm. They didn't mention that when we paid!

Is F not F anymore?? I can understand limited A, but none at all?? Greedy.

Do they get revenue allocated from flights taken or is the ticket price jam-spread? If the former I will rebook with BA out of disgust.

Any views?

Best regards,

Marcus.

Greedy? Since when is Qantas a charity. They are in the business of making a profit and if they think they can get 14 seats sold by selling in R and F only, they will. If you don't like it, fly with BA or on the QF 747 flight.

Btw, R9 F4 does not mean that there are 13 seats available. There could be anywhere between 9 and 14 seats available.

This does NOT mean that there are 13 seats available - it means that there are AT LEAST 9 seats available, of which QF is willing to sell 4 of them at the F price.

Given the very low F availability, I am not surprised there is no A availability.

Once the novelty of the A380 wears off, I would expect A to open up.

Dave

Yup, calm down, take a deep breath and wait for A availability to appear. The 2 A380 flights I have been on and hence the reason for checking, I have seen A has been available, but only appearing a day or so before departure, and these were the inaugural flights.

Cheers

Lucky that you are not trying to get into the SQ A380 in F. Because they neither offer A or F. Just R.
QF has some A class seats available on some routes and some dates but they are not very many and almost impossible to get. Just wait a few years until more of those birds are flying.

Been telling this here for ages now. There is a very, very, very slim chance that you will get in F on an AONEx on the QF380. And yes, they would have told you if you had asked. There simply is no A sold on the A380. The should have called it the R380...

Maybe they will open some seats last minute, but don't hold your breath...

R380 - I like that!

When we paid nearly �15K for our DISCOUNT AONE5's (yes I know, I shouldn't really complain at all as it was such a total BARGAIN!) I just didn't think to ask them to tell us what Oneworld alliance planes we weren't allowed to fly on as they were too new. I should have asked - "Which Oneworld planes do you think we think we might be entitled to fly on as F customers but actually aren't?"

At the risk of getting so badly flamed I turn into a Zinger I wonder if this forum has been brainwashed into submission by the over zealous practice of revenue management.

I suspect we might see more A open up if the rumours about empty F cabins on some routes are true.

My point though, and I think it is fair, is that no A was ever available on these flights. It isn't friggin' Concorde.

Cheers all,

MW.

Good advice, no A yet though, can I start breathing again now as my vision is.......becoming.....eer...umpaired.

(Breath) - wow that's better.

Still no A, but seriously, you make a good point. This is what I will do, will also try waitlist and ask them to clear.

Thanks,

MW.

Currently, there's 14/14 available, and perhaps as a sign of hope QF at least has A-class setup for allowing waitlist on this flight. Just keep your eyes out in a few months

There have been very few people who were able to book A class flights on the A380. Check the QF forum for details.

. Perhaps you could explain that if a company can sell all the burgers they can make for $10, why they should sell some at $3?

I take the point but, how about you have bought the burger and they keep it warm for you, but they won't let you eat it when you are hungry?

Or, you pay one branch of McDonalds for a premium burger and they say you can collect it from another branch at your convinience, but when you do you get given a turd in a bun, whilst you sit and watch the manager eat your burger.

Perhaps you could explain the point at which you would complain when you paid �15K for two AONE5 and A class availability became so limited you couldn't use them (granted that is not entirely the case here).

I repeat, my point is that they offer no A class availability to customers on a key route SYD-SIN-LHR who have already (arguably) purchased the right to travel F.

There should be some (granted minimal) A class availability. As I said it ain't Concorde.

Cheers,

MW.

On which I was able to travel on an AONE3, by the way, although there was a specific Concorde supplement.

I do sympathise with you, but you're flogging a dead horse. Simple supply & demand - enough people are willing to pay the $ for F or R that the airline sees no need to sell at A prices.
That's not a good analogy. At no time have you been confirmed on a QF A380 service in F. Therefore they've never sold you that burger.

You've purchased a ticket which allows you to reserve an A class seat (if one is available), on the routing of your ticket. In this case, there is no A seat available. You mentioned the reason - it's a key route!

I would suggest that you hope two things; 1. that an A seat opens up which you can switch to at some point, and 2. that revenue management keep doing their job so the airline is actually still in business, & flying the route when you want to travel!

Your analogies are too complicated for me! Maybe because I don't see the problem. There is availability on the route in your class. The fact that you can't get onto the A380 does not mean that your ticket conditions have in any way been breached or even that the ticket itself is compromised by lack of A seats on your chosen route. You can be disappointed and annoyed but I don't see how you can can claim foul play. It might actually be possible that more A seats are being released on the other planes that ply that route. And with the world economy heading south, I'm with QF32 on this: sit tight and availability will show up.

But then maybe I'm just more relaxed about it because I have a booking on the A380 on my AONE5.

Edit: OK that was unbearably smug... sorry. But point is: you don't have a right to travel on the flight of your choice but, circumstances being what they are, there's a good chance you will get your choice in time.