Speculation at how Emerald members are split across the alliance
#16
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Originally Posted by bensyd
Very true, but for people who are at emerald status they would probably spend even a small amount of time working out what program will best suit there needs.
#17




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Originally Posted by bensyd
I am not familiar with AY's program but I would assume if there are so few it has some disadvantage to it that makes people move over to BA/AA
When Finnair joined 1W there was in the news reports of first people reaching Emerald already a few months after the big change. My boss said he would have reached AY Platinum if not for the unfortunate timing of membership year change and reset of all counters. And he was very far from "high level management".
I very much doubt that AY's Platinum is in the range of 100.
#18
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Originally Posted by alect
We were checking in for HEL-LHR in June, and at HEL there is a separate Emerald check in counter. The AY checkins that morning were horrendous - snaking lines etc.. The Emerald checkin had at least 10 pax/families in it - and most seemed Finnish.
#20




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The thing is that AY's Plat recognition is supposedly really, really good, so if you are, for example, interested in making the huge amount of on-business travel you do with them more bearable (in the form of upgrades and general preferential treatment), then it might easily be more "sane" to go for AY instead of another program that might give you a better bang for the buck in the miles department.
#21
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Originally Posted by Markonen
The thing is that AY's Plat recognition is supposedly really, really good, ....
#22
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Originally Posted by number_6
...The only program that I know for sure has special informal benefits that may be worthwhile is CX Diamond...
#23
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Originally Posted by Viajero
LAN Comodoros get some very interesting unpublished perks. I know that for a fact, although I prefer not to say more than that.
#24




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Originally Posted by number_6
Is there a single AY top-tier member on FT? It would be nice to hear whether these informal benefits materialize ... ...
As I'm personally not flying a lot for business, just vacations and short holidays, I'm now preferring BAEC as you can maintain BA Silver relatively easily and it does all I need -- business class check-in and occasional lounge access. The only drawback is that it was much easier to use AY miles than BA miles.
#26
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Originally Posted by Viajero
LAN Comodoros get some very interesting unpublished perks. I know that for a fact, although I prefer not to say more than that.
#27
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Originally Posted by number_6
Rather interestingly LH also offers something like that, but at their HON level (earned status that is roughly BA Premier equivalent, quite a bit harder to get than Emerald).
Also as BA Premier (as well as CX Invitation and QF Chairmans Lounge) are invitation only and as such I don't think it can be compared.
#28
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Originally Posted by number_6
I suspect all the benefits are oriented strictly to those living in Spain (or more accurately, Madrid). I know nothing about the unpublished benefits, but I remember that one of the published benefits was free preferential parking at MAD airport, with valet service and things like free car wash.
Last edited by Viajero; Aug 31, 2006 at 5:19 am Reason: added Santiago to list
#29
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
I doubt this very much. Remember the typical high status member is someone who travels a lot for business. Many simply don't have the time or inclination to check out all the options. Some would be unaware there are other options.
#30
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: HEL, Finland
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When I got my AY Plat card (personally delivered by an AY account manager), I had a one hour chat with him. He told that with the growing Chinese market there even starts to be some Chinese AY Plat card holders.
I've been rather pleased with AY Plat, especially on long-haul MD-11, where an upgrade to full J class or J class with Y class service is almost always guaranteed. This upgrading policy was confirmed to me by the AY account manager. Also it feels rather nice to have an account manager at AY, who encouraged me to be in contact with him, if there's any problems. He helped me for example earlier this year by checking if my flight would have the new J seats. Also the welcoming gift certificate for a pair of taylor made shoes was also a nice gift (my best shoes ever).
However some of my colleagues have signed up for the AA Plat challenge and leaving AY Plus.
I've been rather pleased with AY Plat, especially on long-haul MD-11, where an upgrade to full J class or J class with Y class service is almost always guaranteed. This upgrading policy was confirmed to me by the AY account manager. Also it feels rather nice to have an account manager at AY, who encouraged me to be in contact with him, if there's any problems. He helped me for example earlier this year by checking if my flight would have the new J seats. Also the welcoming gift certificate for a pair of taylor made shoes was also a nice gift (my best shoes ever).
However some of my colleagues have signed up for the AA Plat challenge and leaving AY Plus.

