Speculation at how Emerald members are split across the alliance
#33
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Obviously, everything depends on the flying patterns.
I fly mostly transatlantic J, so my "how many flights do I need to become Emerald?" comparison would be like follows (assuming an average 10k miles per round trip):
BA Ex.Club:
800 points needed (not UK-Ireland based) / 240 points per round trip = 3.33 R.T. (I know for UK/USA it is much harder).
AAdvantage:
100,000 points needed / (10,000 x 1,5) = 6.66 Round Trips
IB+:
6,500 points needed / 800 (points R.T. average) = 8.12 Round Trips
So, who cares about IB+?
I fly mostly transatlantic J, so my "how many flights do I need to become Emerald?" comparison would be like follows (assuming an average 10k miles per round trip):
BA Ex.Club:
800 points needed (not UK-Ireland based) / 240 points per round trip = 3.33 R.T. (I know for UK/USA it is much harder).
AAdvantage:
100,000 points needed / (10,000 x 1,5) = 6.66 Round Trips
IB+:
6,500 points needed / 800 (points R.T. average) = 8.12 Round Trips
So, who cares about IB+?
#34
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Originally Posted by millionmiler
I've always thought that for at least upgrade reasons one should always join the program on the airline that they fly the most.
#35



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Originally Posted by Traveloguy
Do you think? 150,000 LH miles a year outside Germany gives status for 2 years. Don't forget that J earns 2x and F 3x towards status miles.
Flying these past 3 weeks has been such a hassle, though, that Im seriously considering cutting back and just not flying.
#36
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Originally Posted by MiamiBeach
I was at the AY lounge in ARN 3 months ago, and they have a separate "Platinum" (AY's Emerald level) section in this lounge which is accesed with a code. This was quite late in the evening with only one BA A319 and one AY EMB-170 left to depart that day. I saw AT LEAST 10 different people go into the Platinum Lounge (and I can't imagine that most of them were BA Golds), so I have to seriously doubt that AY has fewer than 100 Emeralds.
Everyone else in Finland, including me, who have mainly short haul business trips are actually BA FF:s. I can easily maintain my emerald status with BA gold. (LHR-CAI-LHR once a year in F, 360 points, ka-ching). On AY I probably wouldn't even be able to get their gold card making me a disgraceful ruby basically without any lounge access. I wouldn't even dream of a platinum card with a couple of short haul business trips and an AONE3 a year.
So the Arlanda emerald lounge people are probably 90% BA gold members.
/hv
#37
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Originally Posted by hvisti
Probably not <100. But there can't be that many of them either as 300000 miles or whatever the limit is really isn't achievable by anyone else but frequent, long haul business class travellers. I know exactly one person.
Everyone else in Finland, including me, who have mainly short haul business trips are actually BA FF:s. I can easily maintain my emerald status with BA gold. (LHR-CAI-LHR once a year in F, 360 points, ka-ching). On AY I probably wouldn't even be able to get their gold card making me a disgraceful ruby basically without any lounge access. I wouldn't even dream of a platinum card with a couple of short haul business trips and an AONE3 a year.
So the Arlanda emerald lounge people are probably 90% BA gold members.
/hv
Everyone else in Finland, including me, who have mainly short haul business trips are actually BA FF:s. I can easily maintain my emerald status with BA gold. (LHR-CAI-LHR once a year in F, 360 points, ka-ching). On AY I probably wouldn't even be able to get their gold card making me a disgraceful ruby basically without any lounge access. I wouldn't even dream of a platinum card with a couple of short haul business trips and an AONE3 a year.
So the Arlanda emerald lounge people are probably 90% BA gold members.
/hv
#38
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Originally Posted by Shuttle-Bored
HON is 150K miles per year now? Wow, when I looked at it is was something like 600K miles over 2 years, so even in F it was 100K flown miles per year (or monthly trans-Atlantic in F on LH). I dont track LH too closely as I only fly them when it is convenient, but LH has really improved in the past couple of years and HON does seem to be a better than Emerald status that is attainable. Even for SEN LH has been very obliging in the past (more than Emerald).
Flying these past 3 weeks has been such a hassle, though, that Im seriously considering cutting back and just not flying.
Flying these past 3 weeks has been such a hassle, though, that Im seriously considering cutting back and just not flying.
Last edited by bensyd; Sep 1, 2006 at 9:51 am
#39
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Originally Posted by Viajero
...with a lot of IB flights, two EXPs travelling in the same PNR causes a minor stir... and plenty of op-ups. Same situation with AA gets us nada de nada.
#40


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Originally Posted by ajnaro
My partner and I are both EXP; we travel together very frequently; never, on any OW flight (including IB), have we ever received an op-up or any other kind of special attention, even with paid first or business class tickets in hand.
#42
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Originally Posted by hvisti
Probably not <100. But there can't be that many of them either as 300000 miles or whatever the limit is really isn't achievable by anyone else but frequent, long haul business class travellers. I know exactly one person.
As said previously many of my colleagues have signed for the AA plat challenge. For some of them the BA Exec Club program was too difficult, because they didn't fly enough on BA.
#43
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Originally Posted by Shuttle-Bored
HON is 150K miles per year now? Wow, when I looked at it is was something like 600K miles over 2 years
#44
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Originally Posted by alect
You want an op-up from a paid first class ticket ?


No, up-grades just from business or economy class, thank you; and also a little bit of attention from time to time, rather than being brushed aside (by IB staff) as just one more of that troublesome group known as passengers that they'd really rather not have to both to deal with.
#45
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Originally Posted by ajnaro
No, up-grades just from business or economy class, thank you; and also a little bit of attention from time to time, rather than being brushed aside (by IB staff) as just one more of that troublesome group known as passengers that they'd really rather not have to both to deal with.
However with OW I have had quite a few with BA, twice with CX and once with QF & AA.
I was once involuntarily downgraded from F to Y on domestic UA as an LH *G.


