Ultimate global A/D/LONE3/4/5/6 pricing
Oct 26, 2006, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Full Score
Many thanks for all the additional info.
Presumably you flew MRU-(JNB)-LHR-xxxxx as I can't find a way to fly First Class from JNB to the east unless going as far as SYD. Are there any flights to Asia where one can travel A, not D?
Also, please, is there an updated Excel spreadsheet available anywhere? The latest is dated early July 06?
Presumably you flew MRU-(JNB)-LHR-xxxxx as I can't find a way to fly First Class from JNB to the east unless going as far as SYD. Are there any flights to Asia where one can travel A, not D?
Also, please, is there an updated Excel spreadsheet available anywhere? The latest is dated early July 06?
Oct 26, 2006, 10:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Full Score
Many thanks for all the additional info.
Presumably you flew MRU-(JNB)-LHR-xxxxx as I can't find a way to fly First Class from JNB to the east unless going as far as SYD. Are there any flights to Asia where one can travel A, not D?
Also, please, is there an updated Excel spreadsheet available anywhere? The latest is dated early July 06?
Presumably you flew MRU-(JNB)-LHR-xxxxx as I can't find a way to fly First Class from JNB to the east unless going as far as SYD. Are there any flights to Asia where one can travel A, not D?
Also, please, is there an updated Excel spreadsheet available anywhere? The latest is dated early July 06?
Oct 27, 2006, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by jerry a. laska
I believe he was planning something like: MRU-LHR-DXB-LHR-USA-----
Last year on an AONE5 we did fly JNB-SYD- a very pleasant experience on QF-- but next time are considering the JNB-HKG on CX748- which I believe is a seasonal First with the F/A season just starting this week (so would not have been available for us last week).
Oct 27, 2006, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by ReelChief
but next time are considering the JNB-HKG on CX748- which I believe is a seasonal First with the F/A season just starting this week (so would not have been available for us last week).
Oct 27, 2006, 6:29 pm
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Romania and Bulgaria
I found the Romania/Bulgaria OWE and GlobEx fares on Amadeus. BA, CX, QF, IB all show the same tariff; AA doesn't have a fare published there.
The fares are indeed Euro-denominated and are identical with each other, thus:
Priced in EUR
I don't know how the numbers that appear on the Sabre star file got there, and this might not be the definitive last word on the matter, but it removes (from me at least) any lingering hopes that somebody could get a bargain in Romania or Bulgaria, at least easily.
The fares are indeed Euro-denominated and are identical with each other, thus:
Priced in EUR
Code:
LONE3 1810 LGLOB26 1810 LONE4 2250 LGLOB29 2250 LONE5 2790 LGLOB34 2790 LONE6 3260 LGLOB39 3260 DONE3 4800 DONE4 5200 DGLOB34 5200 DONE5 5900 DONE6 6800 AONE3 6900 AONE4 7700 AGLOB34 7700 AONE5 8700 AONE6 9800
Nov 7, 2006, 6:17 am
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Originally Posted by Gardyloo
Somebody getting BA or IB to verify that price ex-South Africa would be great.
Nov 16, 2006, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by willyroo
Has anybody found any OW XONEX pricing out of Vietnam?
Code:
123N VIETNAM 124N -------- 125N . 126N CURRENCY - USD 127N CONTINENT - ASIA 128N . 129N ------------------------------------------------------ 130N I FARE I SEASO I THREE I FOUR C I FIVE CO I SIX CON I 131N I BAS I N I CONTIN I ONTINE I NTINENT I TINENTS I 132N I IS I I ENTS I NTS I S I I 133N ------------------------------------------------------ 134N I AONE I ALL I 7959 I 9098 I 10360 I 11600 I 135N I * I YEAR I I I I I 136N ------------------------------------------------------ 137N I DONE I ALL I 5755 I 6582 I 7500 I 8380 I 138N I * I YEAR I I I I I 139N ------------------------------------------------------ 140N I LONE I ALL I 2549 I 3059 I 3579 I 4389 141N I * I YEAR I I I I
Nov 19, 2006, 7:08 am
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So what's the latest?
After a bit of an absence from FT (naturally due to too much business-related flying), I'm trying to catch up on the latest developments in xONEx pricing space. I'll try to incorporate the latest data from this thread into the spreadsheet in the near future.
One item I have not seen mentioned here is that ExpertFlyer now has RTW fare information, and quite extensive info at that. I don't know enough web-related programming to slurp it all down, even if that potentially were not to run afoul of legal issues. Does anyone know whether I could use EF in some systematic way to update the spreadsheet? I can look up the fares by origin manually, but an automated process would obviously be much preferred.
Off to LAX where I will have to get my current DONE4 reissued. Oh joy.
One item I have not seen mentioned here is that ExpertFlyer now has RTW fare information, and quite extensive info at that. I don't know enough web-related programming to slurp it all down, even if that potentially were not to run afoul of legal issues. Does anyone know whether I could use EF in some systematic way to update the spreadsheet? I can look up the fares by origin manually, but an automated process would obviously be much preferred.
Off to LAX where I will have to get my current DONE4 reissued. Oh joy.
Nov 19, 2006, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by WearyBizTrvlr
After a bit of an absence from FT (naturally due to too much business-related flying), I'm trying to catch up on the latest developments in xONEx pricing space. I'll try to incorporate the latest data from this thread into the spreadsheet in the near future.
One item I have not seen mentioned here is that ExpertFlyer now has RTW fare information, and quite extensive info at that. I don't know enough web-related programming to slurp it all down, even if that potentially were not to run afoul of legal issues. Does anyone know whether I could use EF in some systematic way to update the spreadsheet? I can look up the fares by origin manually, but an automated process would obviously be much preferred.
Off to LAX where I will have to get my current DONE4 reissued. Oh joy.
One item I have not seen mentioned here is that ExpertFlyer now has RTW fare information, and quite extensive info at that. I don't know enough web-related programming to slurp it all down, even if that potentially were not to run afoul of legal issues. Does anyone know whether I could use EF in some systematic way to update the spreadsheet? I can look up the fares by origin manually, but an automated process would obviously be much preferred.
Off to LAX where I will have to get my current DONE4 reissued. Oh joy.
As a related aside, although EF only acknowledges linking to the alliance RTW fares, one can pull up all sorts of dandy one-off or bi/multi-lateral non-alliance RTW fares there too. Here's a little table containing most J and a couple of interesting F RTW/Circle fares ex USA that I put together (I have no life) that has a couple of interesting entries. (The list is far from exhaustive - who knew there were this many products?)
Code:
Ex - USA (LAX) Airline Class USD Who/what CRWEKUAN EK C 4,848 EK/UA N Pacific RTW DRWQFLY QF D 5,342 QF/LY partner RTW CEZSQ/SQAPAC SQ D 5,696 SQ stand-alone RTW DCIR22 AA D 5,698 OW Circle Pac 22K CRWEKUAS EK C 6,251 EK/UA S Pacific RTW DCIR26 AA D 6,665 OW Circle Pac 26K ARWEKUAN EK A 6,726 EK/UA N Pacific F RTW DRWSQCOR SQ D 7,031 SQ/CO partner RTW DRWQFAF QF D 7,056 QF/AF partner RTW DCIR29SA AA D 7,095 OW Circle Pac 29K CRWSQVS SQ D 7,160 SQ/VS partner RTW CRWESC SQ D 7,310 SQ/VS/NZ Escapade RTW DRWNZ1 NZ D 7,740 NZ stand-alone RTW ARWEKUAS EK A 7,821 EK/UA S Pacific F RTW DONE3 AA D 8,063 CRWSTAR1 NZ D 8,224 CRWWJ30 EK C 8,353 EK/CO/KL/AS et al 30K RTW DONE4 AA D 8,923 DGLOB34 AA D 9,029 OW Global Explorer RTW CRWSTAR2 NZ D 9,406 CRWWJ35 EK C 9,538 EK/CO/KL/AS et al 35K RTW DONE5 AA D 9,890 CRWSTAR3 SQ D 11,019 DONE6 AA D 11,180 CRWWJ40 EK C 11,232 EK/CO/KL/AS et al 40K RTW
Nov 22, 2006, 7:42 am
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Cheapest AONE5 starting point
Hi,
I'm in Cape Town on an AONE6 ex Delhi with my final legs via Jo'Burg and HKK coming up.
I want to go around the world again - Asia has had a price hike - where is the cheapest starting point worldwide as I have airmiles to get there.
FYI
I flew SYD-NYC then NYC-Vancouver on CX within this last ticket - after much argument of whether it was legal and it is.
I also hope the spredsheet can be updated as so useful
cheers
Bobie
I'm in Cape Town on an AONE6 ex Delhi with my final legs via Jo'Burg and HKK coming up.
I want to go around the world again - Asia has had a price hike - where is the cheapest starting point worldwide as I have airmiles to get there.
FYI
I flew SYD-NYC then NYC-Vancouver on CX within this last ticket - after much argument of whether it was legal and it is.
I also hope the spredsheet can be updated as so useful
cheers
Bobie
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Nov 22, 2006, 8:40 am
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Originally Posted by Bobie
Hi,
I'm in Cape Town on an AONE6... where is the cheapest starting point worldwide as I have airmiles to get there.
I'm in Cape Town on an AONE6... where is the cheapest starting point worldwide as I have airmiles to get there.
Nov 22, 2006, 9:39 am
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What a great site!
Thanks for replying so quickly - what a great site!
Can I just clarify a few things having read loads of threads today -
As of July you can't purchase and ticket in 2 different countries therefore closing alot of loopholes toget cheaper tickets?
You say AONE ex MRU is the cheapest place but is it different for a DONE?
Could anyone list the top 3 places to originate for a AONE and a DONE 5 continent?
If you are a QF Emerald FF do you find you are upgraded often to first on a DONE or rarely? (I have been spoilt and there is no going back!)
- I would imagine emeralds on a full fair business get the upgrade first?
Apologies if this is not on the right thread - is there a general OW forum?
Thanks in advance, hopefully I will be able to contribute as I have re-issued my current AONE6 from a hand written CX in Delhi - PER QF - NYC AA !. My first RTW was QF/TW in 1984 and i got 52 stops!
Thanks again,
Bobie
QUOTE=Gardyloo]Welcome to FT, Bobie, and you don't have to travel too far. Mauritius is the current leader for AONExs. There are several threads in this forum about MRU originations. Check up on the rules about Africa originations/London transits etc. before you commit, though.[/QUOTE]
Can I just clarify a few things having read loads of threads today -
As of July you can't purchase and ticket in 2 different countries therefore closing alot of loopholes toget cheaper tickets?
You say AONE ex MRU is the cheapest place but is it different for a DONE?
Could anyone list the top 3 places to originate for a AONE and a DONE 5 continent?
If you are a QF Emerald FF do you find you are upgraded often to first on a DONE or rarely? (I have been spoilt and there is no going back!)
- I would imagine emeralds on a full fair business get the upgrade first?
Apologies if this is not on the right thread - is there a general OW forum?
Thanks in advance, hopefully I will be able to contribute as I have re-issued my current AONE6 from a hand written CX in Delhi - PER QF - NYC AA !. My first RTW was QF/TW in 1984 and i got 52 stops!
Thanks again,
Bobie
QUOTE=Gardyloo]Welcome to FT, Bobie, and you don't have to travel too far. Mauritius is the current leader for AONExs. There are several threads in this forum about MRU originations. Check up on the rules about Africa originations/London transits etc. before you commit, though.[/QUOTE]
Nov 22, 2006, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Bobie
Thanks for replying so quickly - what a great site!
Can I just clarify a few things having read loads of threads today -
As of July you can't purchase and ticket in 2 different countries therefore closing alot of loopholes toget cheaper tickets?
You say AONE ex MRU is the cheapest place but is it different for a DONE?
Could anyone list the top 3 places to originate for a AONE and a DONE 5 continent?
If you are a QF Emerald FF do you find you are upgraded often to first on a DONE or rarely? (I have been spoilt and there is no going back!)
- I would imagine emeralds on a full fair business get the upgrade first?
Apologies if this is not on the right thread - is there a general OW forum?
Thanks in advance, hopefully I will be able to contribute as I have re-issued my current AONE6 from a hand written CX in Delhi - PER QF - NYC AA !. My first RTW was QF/TW in 1984 and i got 52 stops!
Thanks again,
Bobie
Can I just clarify a few things having read loads of threads today -
As of July you can't purchase and ticket in 2 different countries therefore closing alot of loopholes toget cheaper tickets?
You say AONE ex MRU is the cheapest place but is it different for a DONE?
Could anyone list the top 3 places to originate for a AONE and a DONE 5 continent?
If you are a QF Emerald FF do you find you are upgraded often to first on a DONE or rarely? (I have been spoilt and there is no going back!)
- I would imagine emeralds on a full fair business get the upgrade first?
Apologies if this is not on the right thread - is there a general OW forum?
Thanks in advance, hopefully I will be able to contribute as I have re-issued my current AONE6 from a hand written CX in Delhi - PER QF - NYC AA !. My first RTW was QF/TW in 1984 and i got 52 stops!
Thanks again,
Bobie
1) For some time (not just July) you had to purchase your ticket in the country of origin (if that is what you are referring to). Purchasing in MRU is easy to do. Starting there is less easy because they seem to have difficulty finding A inventory on MRU-LHR (even when it shows on EF).
2) MRU is MUCH cheaper than any other origin for AONEs. I think the two closest are So. Africa and Qatar and they are at least US$2500 more for AONE4s. MRU is also the best for DONEs but the difference for DONEs is much less- eg. less than US$1000 difference for a DONE4 from MRU versus JNB. And a DONE3 from CMB is slightly less than a DONE4 from MRU—this is relevant in that a 3 continent RTW can be done from CMB but not MRU. Japan and Sweden are also places to consider for DONEs.
3) A question you don’t ask but is prompted by your reference to your AONE6. As has been discussed here, a six continent trip seems very inefficient—and even a five continent trip might be so considered.