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-   -   Ultimate global A/D/LONE3/4/5/6 pricing (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/oneworld/330537-ultimate-global-d-lone3-4-5-6-pricing.html)

spotwelder Jun 18, 2004 8:21 pm
Ultimate global A/D/LONE3/4/5/6 pricing
 
As of Aug. 8, 2007, the most current pricing available can be found in WearyBizTraveler's spread sheet, referenced here.

There is an anticipated price increase on Sept 1, 2007, at least in Asia.

Also, Serfty has listed a number of resources for fares:

Originally Posted by serfty (Post 8146344)
The oneworld website now publishes the base rates for most oneworld fare products (xONEx, XCIRnn etc)

Look here: Air Travel Options for an overview, here: oneworld Explorer for xONEx information and here: Fare Estimate for xONEx fares from different countries.
SanDiego1K
OneWorld Moderator

WearyBizTrvlr Oct 5, 2004 11:18 pm
Consolidating RTW fare data
 
I've taken the liberty of using this data to put together a spreadsheet with all the RTW fares for oneworld, SkyTeam and Star Alliance. It still needs a bit of work, but those who're interested can download it here.

jerry a. laska Mar 28, 2005 5:16 pm
Originally Posted by lucab1982
Hi,

Anyone had any luck when using BA to be put in W/T class? Is there an upgrade fare? Say if I bought a LONEX and wanted certain segments in w/T when flying BA?
83N WORLD TRAVELLER PLUS
84N ---------------------
85N .
86N BA ECONOMY CLASS PASSENGERS MAY TRAVEL IN BA WORLD
87N TRAVELLER PLUS CABIN FOR AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE PER
88N FLIGHT SEGMENT OF:
89N .
90N .
91N . USD300 AUD600
92N .
93N EXCEPTION - FOR DIRECT FLIGHTS BETWEEN LONMEL AND
94N LONSYD THE CHARGE WILL BE
95N .
96N .
97N . USD450 AUD900
98N .
99N IDENTIFY AS A -Q- IN THE FARE CALCULATION. FOR TICKETS
100N NOT ISSUED IN USD/AUD CONVERT THE USD AMOUNT AT THE
101N BSR.
102N EXCEPTION - FOR TICKETS ISSUED IN NZD, CONVERT THE AUD
103N AMOUNT AT THE BSR.
104N .

hvisti Aug 3, 2005 1:02 pm
updated ex-CAI prices
 
Hi all,

I just bought my newest AONE3 ex-CAI and made a note that the price in EGP was exactly the same as in last November but the price in EUR significantly higher as EGP has strengthened against EUR/GBP/USD.

I made a script and a web page http://www.iki.fi/visti/owe.html that updates daily. It fetches real-time exchange rates information and calculates the current prices in EUR/USD/GBP. I don't have that many prices in EGP (only AONE3, AONE4, DONE4 are displayed as I was able to pick the EGP prices from this thread). I might add other tickets and maybe even other locations (IST, WAW) someday when I'm bored.

If it doesn't work or the prices in EGP change, please drop me a note and I'll fix it.

/hv

Gardyloo Sep 29, 2005 8:52 am
Thought I might transmit the results of some fare prowling...

Croatia (OW service ex-DBV to LGW, DUB, MAN, ex-SPU to LGW, seasonal) is shown on on various fare tables as still being a cheap place to start an xONEx. So I emailed the Zagreb BA office to enquire, and got a response that they don't offer RTWs since no OW carrier flies to ZAG. I replied that I thought that DBV or SPU would qualify, and could they consult the rates dept. Their (very prompt) email reply was that there were no fares in Amadeus (which I expected).

Rather than ask again for them to consult the rates desk I phoned the AA RTW desk, who are usually quite good at quoting fares, and the CSR there said they're showing the following DONEx fares (sorry, I didn't ask about L or A):

DONE3 USD4400
DONE4 USD5000
DONE5 USD5900
DONE6 USD6500

These are the same as were being charged in WAW (and a dollar more than IST) until earlier this year, so if there's been an adjustment to the general OW pricing then AA doesn't know about it.

AA doesn't have any codeshare flights operating from DBV (no same-day connections to the US) so it looks like we'd be in the same situation as IST - deal with BA or nobody. So who knows if BA has re-priced the xONExs in Euros or something, and just not told OW.

Still, DBV is an attractive place, relatively easy to get to (even by ferry from Italy) and might be worth looking at for RTWs.

I do wish, though, that one could count on a fare being quoted by one OW member as being definitive, rather than dealing with noobs in sales offices or rates desks located on Pluto.

ReelChief Sep 29, 2005 2:26 pm
Current taxes/surcharges ex-CAI
 
I had been figuring on taxes and surcharges adding about 10% to an AONE4 ex-CAI. However, I have just ticketed mine in the last day and on the base fare of EGP 41680 (which includes paying for an extra economy segment), the taxes/surcharges were EGP 5880-- i.e., more than 14%. It has been arranged directly with BA-CAI. Be prepared.

hvisti Sep 30, 2005 4:22 am
Originally Posted by ReelChief
I had been figuring on taxes and surcharges adding about 10% to an AONE4 ex-CAI. However, I have just ticketed mine in the last day and on the base fare of EGP 41680 (which includes paying for an extra economy segment), the taxes/surcharges were EGP 5880-- i.e., more than 14%. It has been arranged directly with BA-CAI. Be prepared.
I managed to get my AONE3 ticketed the day before BA increased the fuel surcharge. Despite that, the tax part was about 12% of the ticket price. Significantly more than about a year ago.

It seems that at least on BA some of the charges are dependent on the class of travel. I'm not absolutely sure about that but a friend of mine got her LONE4 priced last week and the taxes&stuff were about half of my AONE3 taxes. Of course the routing affects this as well. Last March I booked a first class award ticket HEL-LHR-JNB // CPT-LHR-HEL and the extra charge was 170€. I asked BA why on earth it can be so much and they just explained "it is a first class ticket and it is more expensive than L or D".

/hv

number_6 Oct 1, 2005 10:12 am
Originally Posted by Full Score
You can thank the good ol' British socialist government for taxing Business and First Class international tickets at a higher rate than Economy ones.
That extra tax is GBP20 or USD 36 (and does not apply for transits, only departures from the UK). 90%+ of the "tax increase" is due to the fuel surcharges ... note that each airline has a different surcharge for the same route, AA is about half of BA or QF for example (depends on the route), so there can be several hundred USD difference in "taxes" just based on which carriers you are flying (for the same routing). Reissues will cause the new fuel surcharges to be charged.

SanDiego1K Oct 9, 2005 12:58 pm
Originally Posted by ReelChief
I have just ticketed mine in the last day and on the base fare of EGP 41680 (which includes paying for an extra economy segment), the taxes/surcharges were EGP 5880-- i.e., more than 14%. It has been arranged directly with BA-CAI.
I now have my quote for an AA ticket from Cairo.

AONE4
Basic fare EGP 40884

Total fare EGP 43863

Fees equal EGP 2979 or 8%. They are within 1% of last year. I'm pleasantly surprised, as I was expecting heavy fuel surcharges.

SanDiego1K Oct 11, 2005 1:02 pm
Originally Posted by hvisti
What kind of routing did you have? I got my AONE3 ticketed just before the BA fuel surcharge increase (CAI-LHR-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-JFK-HKG-ICN-HKG-SIN-LHR-HEL-LHR-CAI) and the tax part was 5700 EGP.

/hv
Here is my AONE4:

Basic fare EGP 40884

Total fare EGP 43863

Fees equal EGP 2979 or 8%

CAI-LHR-LAX/ SAN-DFW-MIA-UVF/ SLU-SJU-LAX-HKG-NRT-HKG-CMB/ HKG-MEL-ASP-SYD-AKL-SYD-LHR/ LGW-KRK-LGW/ LHR-CAI

jrobin Oct 19, 2005 6:09 pm
Taxes and Fuel Surcharges
 
Originally Posted by ReelChief
I had been figuring on taxes and surcharges adding about 10% to an AONE4 ex-CAI. However, I have just ticketed mine in the last day and on the base fare of EGP 41680 (which includes paying for an extra economy segment), the taxes/surcharges were EGP 5880-- i.e., more than 14%. It has been arranged directly with BA-CAI. Be prepared.
I was just quoted taxes and surcharges totalling EGP5533 on a EGP13590 LONE4 fare, or over 40% extra.

I am trying to find out why. The routing given was
CAI-LHR-YYZ-CUN-DFW-DEN-LAX-MEL-AKL-ZQN-SYD-JNB-CPT...NBO-LHR-CAI

One thought is QANTAS fuel surcharges.

Any ideas?

christep Jan 22, 2006 4:56 pm
For completeness, these are the latest changes as published by CX. Nothing much new here except making explicit that voluntary changes to the first segment of an issued ticket requires a reissue at current terms (which I had always taken to be the implicit status anyway):
Code:
Please be advised the following changes with effective 15 January 2006 :

1. ONEWORLD EXPLORER FARE CONDITION PARAGRAPH 04.C.3 - 
  ADD KENYA TO THE EXCEPTION, REVISED WORDING AS BELOW:
  04 FLIGHT APPLICATION
  C/3/ FOR TRAVEL TO/FROM/VIA GHANA/NIGERIA/ KENYA TWO
  PERMITTED IN EUROPE WHEN ONE IS A TRANSFER WITHOUT 
  STOPOVER BETWEEN GHANA/NIGERIA/ KENYA AND ANOTHER CONTINENT.
                                                       
2. ONEWORLD CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE CONDITION PARAGRAPH 07 -
  MAXIMUM STAY IS REVISED TO 12 MONTHS

3. VOLUNTARY CHANGES TO TICKET ISSUED BEFORE REVISION 
  OF FARE LEVELS/FARE CONDITIONS.                     
  PLEASE BE ADVD THE FOLLOWING HANDLING PROCEDURE:   
  A. WHEN THERE IS NO VOLUNTARY CHANGE TO THE ORIGINATING
      FLIGHT -FIRST FLIGHT COUPON-, THE FARES AND CHARGES
      FOR THE JOURNEY SHALL BE CALCULATED IN ACCORDANCE 
      WITH THE FARE AND CONDITIONS IN EFFECT ON THE DATE 
      ON WHICH THE TICKET IS ISSUED.                       
                                                         
  B. WHEN THERE IS VOLUNTARY CHANGE TO THE ORIGINATING 
      FLIGHT -FIRST FLIGHT COUPON-, THE FARES AND CHARGES
      FOR THE JOURNEY SHALL BE CALCULATED IN ACCORDANCE 
      WITH THE FARE AND CONDITIONS IN EFFECT ON THE DATE 
      ON WHICH THE CHANGE IS MADE.                       
                                                         
4. INCREASE EX EGYPT FIRST AND BUSINESS CLASS ONEWORLD   
  FARE FARE BASIS FARE LEVELS EFF 15JAN06 
  AONE3 EGP35400 -NO CHANGE-                           
  AONE4 EGP54900                                       
  AONE5 EGP63000                                       
  AONE6 EGP73800                                       
                                                         
  DONE3 EGP27290 -NO CHANGE-                           
  DONE4 EGP35100                                       
  DONE5 EGP40500                                       
  DONE6 EGP47700                           
                                             
  AONEWC3 EGP35400 -NO CHANGE-             
  AONEWC4 EGP54900                         
  DONEWC3 EGP27290 -NO CHANGE-             
  DONEWC4 EGP35100                         
                                             
  AGLOB34 EGP54900                         
  DGLOB34 EGP35100                         

Thank you for your attention.

moa999 Feb 2, 2006 4:34 pm
Just so the data from this thread is stickied-http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=515488

Latest pricing spreadsheets
WearyBizTrvlr - http://qsi.cc/users/wbt/RTW%20Fares.xls

Latest StarFile
WearyBizTrvlr - http://www.hardlink.com/~markdu/OWFi...eExplorer.html
Australian restrictions - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...0&postcount=50

NoWindowSeat Apr 17, 2006 10:39 am
Originally Posted by Jerry_Maguire
Did European origination RTW fares just go up on April 15? I don't really care about their pricing, but would like to know if there has been another round of fare increases.
Oneworld Explorer Fare Levels Update 31 March 2006

"Fare levels ex Europe, Middle East, and Africa have been amended for sales on/ after 15 April 2006 for the Oneworld Explorer Fare (AONE*/DONE*/L#ONE*) Additional fare levels ex Europe, Middle East and Africa have also been introduced."

That's the message from Qantas already over 2 weeks ago. I haven't seen the new fares yet but I am sure someone with access to them, will post the info here shortly.

SLF Apr 19, 2006 2:46 am
So I got confirmation from Emeco this morning :(
Code:
(prices EGP)  x=3    x=4    x=5    x=6
AONEx      48700  60400  69300  81200
DONEx      34300  38700  44600  52500
LONEx      14500  17000  19500  22100
Here is a comparison of the changes. Looks like the A/DONE3 anomaly has been addressed, along with a general increase across the board.

Code:
        AONE3  AONE4  AONE5  AONE6 
20-Jan  35400  54900  63000  73800 
15-Apr  48700  60400  69300  81200 
% incr  38%    10%    10%    10%   


        DONE3  DONE4  DONE5  DONE6 
20-Jan  27290  35100  40500  47700 
15-Apr  34300  38700  44600  52500 
% incr  26%    10%    10%    10%   


        LONE3  LONE4  LONE5  LONE6
20-Jan  11570  13590  15600  17650
15-Apr  14500  17000  19500  22100
% incr  25%    25%    25%    25%


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