Singapore Airlines had its share of disasters too!

1. The SQ B747 crash which killed about 80+ passengers while taking off (yes, taking off from an abandoned runway) from Taipei airport. It crashed into an earthmoving tractor parked at the side of the runway which was under construction.

2. The Silkair (SQ subsidiary) flight which plunged into a river near Surabaya, Indonesia.

MH has quite a few lines to europe already, but none for the northern part, so it would make some sense. HEL is a good hub if you are coming from east, virtually no backtracking on any connection.

Good deal for AY too, a lot of connections throughout indonesia. This wouldn't actually be competing with SIN-hub, because most OW connections from there are to Australia. (A bigger blow for CX and HKG, though)

Is there enough metal for that expansion? MH seems to have 20-28 new A330 and 6 A380 on the way in. Don't know when and if it is replacements or add-ons. (AY will get 11 new A350 but not until 2014 or later.)

And of course are there enough pax? A few ft'ers thinking this is cool won't fill a daily 330..

Of course MH can codeshare with Air Berlin from FRA or other German airports in the near future (and probably will) but to Scandinavia and the Baltics that would mean backtracking as you mentioned.

Yes, would be very convenient to get to industrial hubs like Surabaya with only one stop from HEL. Or the holiday islands Bali and Lombok.

AY I seriously doubt, if any capacity remains they will need it to boost frequencies to existing destinations. MH might have some resources left.

I do think so. Indonesia is a big buyer of Scandinavian forest industry technology, Malaysia itself as well. Add other machinery exports and imports of various materials from and to Scandinavia. Then the obvious Norwegian salmon that can fill cargo space on it's own...Lots of hotel buffets in Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta.

And let's not forget that Malaysia and Indonesia are both major leisure destinations, with the proper marketing they could probably rival Thailand also in the Scandinavian market.

I wonder whether Cathay and Malaysia will co operate even more now.

May be malaysia will codeshare on cathays US and canada flights

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 23 � Malaysia Airlines (MAS) is considering delaying its membership with global airline group Oneworld and deliveries of the super airliner Airbus A380 as its new management focuses on cutting losses, which spiked in the second quarter of 2011.

The Malaysian Insider understands that MAS will announce a bigger loss today for this year�s second quarter, traditionally its weakest business period, from the net loss of RM242.3 million in the first quarter ended March 31. It posted a pre-tax loss of RM532.6 million for the second quarter in 2010.

�The exco met last week and are looking at their options of delaying the alliance with Oneworld because it will cost money to provide interlining services and also upgrade the lounges to their standards,� a company source told The Malaysian Insider.

�They are also looking at delaying the A380 deliveries. It�s already delayed since 2008 but the exco is concerned if it can make money for MAS,� he added, referring to the executive committee headed by MAS chairman Tan Sri Mohd Nor Mohd Yusof now managing the airline after managing director Tengku Datuk Azmil Zahruddin resigned effective August 9.

Another source confirmed the possibility of delays, pointing out that MAS is now just a designated member of Oneworld since June and has to go through a process that could take as long as 18 months before being a full member of the world�s third biggest airline group.

It is understood that a cause of concern is MAS� sponsor to join oneworld, Qantas, which recently announced it wants to set up two new airlines in Asia with part of its US$9 billion (RM26.81 billion) plane order from Airbus in order to salvage its loss-making international business.

Under the plan, the Australian carrier has decided to set up a Japanese budget airline with Japan Airlines and Mitsubishi Corp and a premium airline based in Southeast Asia, possibly Malaysia.

�MAS is going to be a premium airline and if Qantas goes ahead with its plans, there will be competition. An alliance might not work then, apart from the costs of meeting the alliance�s standards,� the source said.

When MAS announced its entry in Oneworld last June, it said that MAS passengers will gain access to the alliance�s global network which covers almost 950 destinations in 150 countries. MAS Enrich frequent flyer members will be able to earn and redeem rewards on Oneworld�s carriers and vice versa.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/b...s-losses-mount

That would be rather tiresome.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...6&sec=business

You forgot to add the other important part:

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/ne....php?id=610689

In a day MH has been going back a forth about deciding if OW was the right choice, and it seems they are staying at OW. The thing I don't understand is why they are considering ST, ST has more SE Asian airlines that overlap MH's routes than OW, they chose Garuda & Vietnam over MH. what is SERIOUSLY going on with the management at MH?

I think it was just a rumour. Ive checked with people I know over at OW and apparently this was a mischevious press rumour and people were misquoted. MH is thankfully joining OneWorld and not Skyreject.

MH has had a very comprehensive relationship with KLM for a long time, and I think that before the news was released regarding MH joining OW, many people thought that SkyTeam was the one MH would join. I would love to see MH in OW, but I also have to admit that keeping their current relationship with AF-KLM is also a reasonable option for them.

As you seem to be aware of the KL-MH relationship, I am surprised that you were also not aware that AF was apparently the one to veto their SkyTeam membership.

Is it rumor, conjecture/ fact? Please do elaborate a bit???

I indeed did not know that...

I figured this was media nonsense. OW is the better fit for MH.