Malaysia Airlines is about to join the Oneworld Alliance

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Jun 6, 2011 | 6:16 am

#46

WKS

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Originally Posted by holtju2

Took only 12 years! LOL!

Thought that they were always closer to SkyTrash than OW.

They were...and have been trying to join ST for a long time, but ST decided they were NOT Trashy enough to qualify! So, ST picked neighbouring Garuda instead, a carrier not long ago banned from flying into the EU.

Seriously though, in a recent interview the outgoing MD of SkyTrash said as much: that the existing ST carriers would only permit new carriers which brought value to their own position to join the alliance: http://www.airtransportnews.aero/pri...ysis.pl?id=980

How could MH, a carrier rated as superior to the existing ST carrriers [e.g Skytrax rating] bring value to them? There is a PhD thesis to the answer, but in short existing ST carriers saw MH as a threat.

Jun 6, 2011 | 7:33 am

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Originally Posted by Austinrunner

Indonesia: CGK, MES, BDO, JOG, SUB, DPS

Middle East: JED, DXB, DMM

Thanks a lot, Austinrunner. Looks quite nice regarding my preferred destinations in those parts of the World.

Jun 6, 2011 | 7:34 am

#48

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MH will bring many interesting destinations to the OW map.

Not to mention the CPT EZE...Now we have many Indonesia destinations including Batam. Many Malaysia cities as well as Angor Wat and Koh Samui! Kunming and Guangzhou in China from places other than HKG...MH's India network will match Kingfisher perfectly well!

Question is, what FireFly will fit into the picture?

Jun 6, 2011 | 7:36 am

#49

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I always thought MH is a good fit for OW. I am very surprised that AF resisted MH joining ST for so long at the first place.

Jun 6, 2011 | 8:41 am

#50

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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy

And boy, by making this announcement at the IATA conference in Singapore or all places. Must have caught all the regional airlines by a big big surprise. With SQ, TG in Oneworld, and GA, VN in SkyTeam, Oneworld is the weakest link of the 3 with no presence in South East Asia unless you count CX's daily BKK-SIN-BKK link!

MH obviously does not want to play second fiddle to GA/VN after they stole its limelight in joining Skyteam. So Oneworld must have been persuing them intently. I wonder if we can see QF or Jetstar making a comeback to KUL?

You meant '...with SQ, TG in Star Alliance,...'

Jun 6, 2011 | 9:03 am

#51

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Great news, especially the EZE-CPT route. I guess the African exception that allows 2 entries in Europe may be on the way out.

Jun 6, 2011 | 9:21 am

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Great news! Too bad it took 12 years :-)

Jun 6, 2011 | 10:24 am

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Originally Posted by kcaluwae

Great news! Too bad it took 12 years :-)

But they intended to go to bed with SkyTeam for 12 years!...lol

Jun 6, 2011 | 2:12 pm

#54

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Originally Posted by onobond

A quick glimpse at MH's timetable reveals the following F destinations to/from KUL:
/cut/
-CPT
-EZE (i.e. same flight # KUL-EZE with onestop in CPT!)

CPT-EZE?!? That is awesome!

Jun 6, 2011 | 5:34 pm

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For people who'd never flown on MH before... you'd be pleasantly surprised! MH's inflight service rivals that of SQ .. in that they're more personal and not 'robotic'. MH also serves better satay than SQ. And in giving out more generous portions too! All in all, I'm looking forward to flying on MH under the OW flag.

Having said that, I better cash my miles on Virgin Flying Club which I've been saving to fly on MH!

Jun 6, 2011 | 9:15 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by headinclouds

Great news, especially the EZE-CPT route. I guess the African exception that allows 2 entries in Europe may be on the way out.

Quote:

4(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows:
1.
2.
3. For travel to/from or via Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya and Uganda two permitted in Europe when one is a transfer without stopover between
Ghana/Nigeria/Kenya/Uganda and another continent.

Jun 7, 2011 | 3:22 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Austinrunner

Quote:

Originally Posted by onobond

Starting to build another AONEX this morning , I was happy to see the good news.

A quick glimpse at MH's timetable reveals the following F destinations to/from KUL:
-AMS
-LHR
-BAH
-SYD
-CPT
-EZE (i.e. same flight # KUL-EZE with onestop in CPT!)

JED instead of BAH.

Sorry, but MH Timetable clearly says BAH, but not JED, which is served by CY only. The only exception beeing the latest ME flight out of KUL to AUH, connecting to BAH on codeshare, both flights CY only

Quote:

To Bahrain (BAH)
4JUN 12 4 6 1055X1340 MH9119;EQV FCY NONSTOP
5JUN 1OCT 1234 67 1055X1340 MH9119;EQV FCY NONSTOP
3OCT 12 4 6 1055X1340 MH9119;EQV FCY NONSTOP
1JUN 3 5 7 1950X2235 MH9127;EQV FCY NONSTOP
2JUN 5OCT 345 7 1950X2235 MH9127;EQV FCY NONSTOP
7OCT 3 5 7 1950X2235 MH9127;EQV FCY NONSTOP
- - 1234567 2040X0235* MH9159;332 CY 2345 AUH 0225* MH9497; EQV CY

To Jeddah (JED)
4SEP 2 7 1245X1630Y MH150 772 CY NONSTOP
2OCT 2 7 1245X1630Y MH150 772 CY NONSTOP
6OCT 1 34 6 1510X1855Y MH150 772 CY NONSTOP
3SEP 1 34 6 1515X1855Y MH150 744 CY NONSTOP
7SEP 28SEP 3 6 1515X1855Y MH150 744 CY NONSTOP
29SEP 5OCT 1 3456 1515X1900Y MH150 772 CY NONSTOP
7OCT 5 1515X1900Y MH150 772 CY NONSTOP

Reference:
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/cont...May%202011.pdf

Jun 7, 2011 | 6:35 am

#58

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Sorry, MH does not operate its own metal to BAH. It codeshares on GF and Etihad. That's what the timetable specifically says.

MH does operate JED <> KUL nonstop using 3-class 744 aircraft but apparently sells only C and Y on that route.

So, we were both wrong.

Jun 7, 2011 | 6:46 am

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Originally Posted by chongcao

But they intended to go to bed with SkyTeam for 12 years!...lol

Found on KLM website that their JV will remain.
So it will be a 'Ménage à trois'

Jun 7, 2011 | 10:07 am

#60

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pandaperth

I disagree. As I understand it the Africa exception on the Oneworld Explorer ticket is there because the only Oneworld flights into the countries concerned are from Europe. The fact that there has been no Oneworld flight between Africa and Sth America had nothing to do with it.

The exception is:

4(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows:
1.
2.
3. For travel to/from or via Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya and Uganda two permitted in Europe when one is a transfer without stopover between
Ghana/Nigeria/Kenya/Uganda and another continent

I would agree to your argument, except that Dakar,Senegal and Malbo, Equatorial Guinea have the same problem as for Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya and Uganda. Yet these countries are not on the exception list. Or is that another quirk of the OW rules.