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What do the experts think of this:
OSL-xDOH-NBO-DOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-(DFW-LAX surface)-LIR-LAX-MAD-BCN-HEL-OSL If three LAX stops is an issue, I could do NA as LAX-JFK-DFW-LIR-LAX-MAD... I actually need to be in BCN at the end of this and it looks like I could maximize segments this way. Thank you! |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 37568087)
What do the experts think of this:
OSL-xDOH-NBO-DOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-(DFW-LAX surface)-LIR-LAX-MAD-BCN-HEL-OSL If three LAX stops is an issue, I could do NA as LAX-JFK-DFW-LIR-LAX-MAD... I actually need to be in BCN at the end of this and it looks like I could maximize segments this way.! Is JFK-DFW by surface? Or OSL-xDOH-NBO-DOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-DFW, LAX-LIR-LAX-MAD-BCN-HEL-OSL where "DFW, LAX" is a surface segment DFW-LAX. Some write as DFW//LAX. |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 37568087)
What do the experts think of this:
OSL-xDOH-NBO-DOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-(DFW-LAX surface)-LIR-LAX-MAD-BCN-HEL-OSL If three LAX stops is an issue, I could do NA as LAX-JFK-DFW-LIR-LAX-MAD... I actually need to be in BCN at the end of this and it looks like I could maximize segments this way. Maybe OK, but pandaperth can advise on DOH No over water long haul AA flights, unless AA codeshare on IB LAX-BCN. If AA long haul they will~can ticket. AA flys to BCN from a range of airports, including ORD & DFW, but rule 4J may hinder others. You are only using 4 of the 6 NA allowable segments. Texas in not in rule 4J, so could fly DFW-LAX on the DONE5. Going to NBO adds a continent, so base prices rises, but still 16 segments. Check price of a separate ticket DOH<->XXX. QR fly's to better places in Kenya ~ Africa than Nairobi. QR Qatar may even return to Mombasa! Go somewhere else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid...arajas_Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josep_...l_Prat_Airport QR destinations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_destinations https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3ae1156f98.jpg |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 37568087)
What do the experts think of this:
OSL-xDOH-NBO-DOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-(DFW-LAX surface)-LIR-LAX-MAD-BCN-HEL-OSL If three LAX stops is an issue, I could do NA as LAX-JFK-DFW-LIR-LAX-MAD... I actually need to be in BCN at the end of this and it looks like I could maximize segments this way. Thank you! As I told you a week ago in this post FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - Oneworld booking and pricing experiences, there is no problem here. Like Mwenenzi I don't understand what you mean about DFW-LAX surface etc Your itinerary seems to have in Europe/Middle East a single transit (in DOH) and too many stopovers - in DOH, MAD, BCN and HEL; only two are allowed I see no need for a surface segment in Nth America: one transcon and five flight segments in total. Of course you may actually want the surface segment! This itinerary is OK A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 37568219)
//Your itinerary seems to have in Europe/Middle East a single transit (in DOH) and too many stopovers - in DOH, MAD, BCN and HEL; only two are allowed
3015 rule 8 8. STOPOVERS Permitted. NOTE: 1. Minimum 2 stopovers required 2. Maximum 2 stopovers permitted in the continent of origin |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37568233)
Other than BCN, SDandi (from SJC, close to LAX), has stated were EU-ME stopovers will be.
3015 rule 8 Yes SDandi (from SJC, close to LAX), has stated were EU-ME stopovers will be. and it is stated here: OSL-xDOH-NBO-DOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-(DFW-LAX surface)-LIR-LAX-MAD-BCN-HEL-OSL And so I'm seeing proposed stopovers in DOH, MAD, BCN and HEL And since the itinerary starts in Oslo, only two stopovers are allowed in the continent of Europe/Middle East. ETA Re-reading the relevant posts, I think I maybe misinterpreted people's meanings. Mwenezi - you meant to say "other than BCN, SDAndi has NOT stated where EU/ME stopovers will be" and SDAndi put the 'x' in OSL-xDOH-NBO to show was definitely a transit, but chose to not indicate (perhaps at this early planning stage) whether the return to Europe/Middle East has more than the BCN stopover or not. Apologies to both of you. |
Not sure whether this has been discovered before, but I was able to con the online booking site to accept and price up a RTW itinerary in business class which exceeded 34k miles (my itinerary is 47k miles). I did it by entering all the flights, and then searching for an economy ticket. And then on the first choose flight page, switched it to business, at which point it recalculated and allowed me to select the flights and gave a price at the end.
I did think perhaps they'd done something to fix that bug, though searching for a business ticket straight away still threw the error. Annoyingly I still can't book through the website as the first flight I wanted to take is on QR, and it also refuses to show a JL fligt later in the itinerary, but which I know has D availability from ITA matrix. But it was still useful to be able to get the price (at least roughly) as well as confirmation that my itinerary was valid, and may be useful for others who are booking long itineraries but don't have their first flight as a QR one. |
Originally Posted by zaphod424
(Post 37568475)
Not sure whether this has been discovered before, but I was able to con the online booking site to accept and price up a RTW itinerary in business class which exceeded 34k miles (my itinerary is 47k miles).
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Originally Posted by R2
(Post 37568497)
There is no mileage limit on a oneworld Explorer fare, it is a continent based fare. The RTW fare with a mileage limit is called Global Explorer. Both fares are bookable on the RTW tool - at least in theory, there are lots of bugs in the tool.
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Originally Posted by zaphod424
(Post 37568544)
I'm aware that the oneworld explorer ticket allows trips over 34k miles, but the online booking tool has never (at least as far as I'm aware) been able to price up or book trips in business or first over 34k miles, you always had to call. But I'm pointing out that one can circumvent that bug by first searching for economy, and then changing to business on the flight selection page, allowing you to use the online tool to get a price and/or book a trip over 34k miles.
The tool can give a false error message "exceeded 34k miles" for a *ONE* itinerary fault, which does not have a mileage limit. Would be better if the tool just displayed "error". So that the user has to determine the error. On these tickets are many possible errors. |
pandaperth Mwenenzi Thank you for all of this!!
I think I caused a lot of confusion with how I wrote this out. Apologies. I blame my friend, wine.Thank you for the // pointer to indicate a surface segment. If I am understanding you guys: DFW-LAX does not have to be a surface segment, which makes sense. NBO has to be in there. We are picking up a safari from there. Well, technically from Wilson. My mistake with the last section. I thought I saw LAX-MAD-BCN on AA, but it doesn’t exist, so I would make the last part LAX-DFW-BCN So, lets see if I can write this out more clearly: OSL-xDOH-NBO-xDOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-xDFW-LAX-LIR-LAX-xDFW-BCN-xHEL-OSL So, DOH (both times), DFW (both times) and HEL are all transit. If the above doesn’t work under rule 8, I could finish with LAX-HEL-OSL on AY with AA codeshare Thinking I could add another stopover in Asia to get to 16 segments? |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 37569972)
pandaperth Mwenenzi Thank you for all of this!!
I think I caused a lot of confusion with how I wrote this out. Apologies. I blame my friend, wine.Thank you for the // pointer to indicate a surface segment. If I am understanding you guys: DFW-LAX does not have to be a surface segment, which makes sense. NBO has to be in there. We are picking up a safari from there. Well, technically from Wilson. My mistake with the last section. I thought I saw LAX-MAD-BCN on AA, but it doesn’t exist, so I would make the last part LAX-DFW-BCN So, lets see if I can write this out more clearly: OSL-xDOH-NBO-xDOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-xDFW-LAX-LIR-LAX-xDFW-BCN-xHEL-OSL So, DOH (both times), DFW (both times) and HEL are all transit. If the above doesn’t work under rule 8, I could finish with LAX-HEL-OSL on AY with AA codeshare Thinking I could add another stopover in Asia to get to 16 segments? Elsewhere no difference (other than a few exceptions), but can make a difference to real taxes and maybe the mysterious black art of carrier YQ YR surcharges.. You now have 3 or 4 allowable segments and 1 of 2 allowable stopovers in EU-ME 4. FLIGHT APPLICATION / ROUTINGS <snip> (e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows: 1. Two permitted in North America. 2. Two permitted in Asia. 3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa. If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa. (f) Only one international departure and one international arrival from/to the country of originpermitted. EXCEPTION: Two permitted for origin USA when one arrival-departure is a transfer without stopover. (g) Intermediate surface sectors are permitted at the passenger’s expense.NOTE: travel between USA and Canada is not counted as international. No more than 4 international transfers from the one country permitted. Transoceanic surface sectors between TC1-TC2 and TC1-TC3 are not permitted. EXCEPTION: For travel originating in the South West Pacific, one transoceanic surface sector between TC1-TC2 or TC1-TC3 is permitted. (h) A minimum of 3 and maximum of 16 segments, including surface segments between any 2 airports, are permitted for the entire journey. Free flight segments within each continent are limited as follows: <snip> |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 37569972)
pandaperth Mwenenzi Thank you for all of this!!
.... I blame my friend, wine. Wine is my good friend too; So I understand. If I am understanding you guys: DFW-LAX does not have to be a surface segment. Correct. You are allowed up to six flight segments in Nth America, with no restriction on surface segments or stopovers. I thought I saw LAX-MAD-BCN on AA, but it doesn’t exist, so I would make the last part LAX-DFW-BCN You have a number of options for LAX-BCN, including the 3-times weekly overnight non-stop on Iberia. AA codeshares on these flights, if that is important to you for mileage earning. LAX-MAD-BCN is OK as well - with the last flight being on IB So, lets see if I can write this out more clearly: OSL-xDOH-NBO-xDOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-xDFW-LAX-LIR-LAX-xDFW-BCN-xHEL-OSL So, DOH (both times), DFW (both times) and HEL are all transit. If the above doesn’t work under rule 8, I could finish with LAX-HEL-OSL on AY with AA codeshare Your proposed itinerary is fine Thinking I could add another stopover in Asia to get to 16 segments? Yes. |
Thank you both again, pandaperth Mwenenzi
Two more questions/clarifications: I am going to book two of these. The itinerary will be the same for both, but dates will vary on a couple of the stopovers. Would I need two reservation codes? And, the first leg would be January of 2027. I want to book soon to lock in the first part of the trip. I plan on available dummy dates for the rest of the ticket and then changing them as the actual dates I want become available. Do you see any issues with this? |
Originally Posted by SDandi
(Post 37569972)
Thank you for the // pointer to indicate a surface segment. ... So, lets see if I can write this out more clearly: OSL-xDOH-NBO-xDOH-SGN-HGK-LAX-JFK-xDFW-LAX-LIR-LAX-xDFW-BCN-xHEL-OSL |
attempting to clarify using better nomenclature
I was lazy in my original post and just pasted cities directly from of output from the online tool. I'll attempt to update the nomenclature based on the good suggestion in henry999 post. (CAPS show stopovers, lowercase shows transits).
I'm seeking guidance in trying to clarify the rule with South Africa journeys with a single ME/EU departure. The tool gave me routings with both LHR and DOH stops, to/from South Africa. Is that a glitch, or does it matter that it is only a stopover? Here is the first one I priced: OSL-lhr-CPT,jnb-doh-HKG-HAN-nrt, HND-ORD, LAX-jfk, ORD-lhr-OSL #2: I've seen this one as a GLOB in the tool as well, FWIW OSL-lhr-CPT,jnb-doh-MCT-doh-HAN-nrt, HND-ORD, LAX-jfk, ORD-lhr-OSL Finally (#3), my attempt to abide the rule mentioned above, but this wouldn't work for me in the tool, presumably since it doesn't allow QR for first flight: OSL-doh-CPT,jnb-HKG-HAN-NRT, HND-ORD, LAX-JFK, ORD-lhr-OSL Any thoughts on the validity any of these? The tool sometimes flags me as being over the 34,000 mile limit, but I'm able to process through choosing flights and get pricing, sometimes as a GLOB explorer. #2 above shows 33,800 miles in GCMaps. I'm using OSL as a cheaper starting point, despite being based in North America. CPT is my main destination, and the other stops are mostly for fun/mileage running. Trying to maximize this as much as possible. Thanks in advance
Originally Posted by BTA
(Post 37565490)
Couple of more questions while playing around with the admittedly quirky online tool. That CPT is the main purpose of the trip means rules limit me somewhat, but the tool seems to be allowing me to fly from Europe to CPT then to asia via DOH. For example, both of these were valid in the tool...
Oslo - London - Cape Town - Johannesburg - Doha - Hong Kong - Hanoi - Tokyo - Chicago - Los Angeles - New York - Chicago - London - Oslo Oslo - London - Cape Town - Johannesburg - Doha - Muscat - Doha - Hanoi - Tokyo - Chicago - Los Angeles - New York - Chicago - London - Oslo I wasn't able to get it to price alternatives, like my preferred routing via DOH, and then bypassing EU/ME when departing South Africa to satisfy the rules as I understand them when including South Africa. Something like this: Oslo - Doha - Cape Town - Johannesburg - Hong Kong - Hanoi - Tokyo - Chicago - Los Angeles - New York - Chicago - London - Oslo I'm trying to maximize my AA earnings somewhat, with getting to/from CPT. After the first stop in Chicago, (basically home, the rest is to use up the ticket, and possibly build in another mini-trip. Not sure how to best mazimize it, depending on what I book, I should have at least one more segment to use. Thanks all for all of the expertise here.
Originally Posted by henry999
(Post 37572161)
Just a small thing. Another technique that I like -- not nearly so widely used as // but still -- is to put stops in all caps and transits in lower case, e.g., OSL-doh-NBO. Why? The first thing I do when someone asks for advice about an itinerary is copy it and paste it into the Great Circle Mapper for a visual interpretation of the routing. The GCM doesn't care about case but it does refuse to recognise (for example) xDOH so I've then got to strip out the x's and any other extraneous info that people sometimes include (e.g., airline codes). The point is that when you're asking for help, doesn't it make sense to keep things as simple as possible?
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Originally Posted by BTA
(Post 37572470)
The tool sometimes flags me as being over the 34,000 mile limit, but I'm able to process through choosing flights and get pricing, sometimes as a GLOB award.
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Originally Posted by henry999
(Post 37572767)
As noted here repeatedly, the tool is so buggy as to be of comparatively little use. The way it confounds GLOBAL Explorer and ONEWORLD Explorer is one maddening example. But, having said that, what is this award of which you speak?
Sorry. Global explorer. I fixed my post. I guess I’ll use the tool to map things out, see schedules, get a ballpark estimate of pricing, but little else. I appreciate your suggestion for how to list routings |
Originally Posted by BTA
(Post 37572470)
I was lazy in my original post and just pasted cities directly from of output from the online tool. I'll attempt to update the nomenclature based on the good suggestion in henry999 post. (CAPS show stopovers, lowercase shows transits).
I'm seeking guidance in trying to clarify the rule with South Africa journeys with a single ME/EU departure. The tool gave me routings with both LHR and DOH stops, to/from South Africa. Is that a glitch, or does it matter that it is only a stopover? Here is the first one I priced: OSL-lhr-CPT-jnb-doh-HKG-HAN-tyo-ORD-LAX-jfk-ORD-lhr-OSL #2: I've seen this one as a GLOB in the tool as well, FWIW OSL-lhr-CPT-jnb-doh-MCT-doh-HAN-tyo-ORD-LAX-jfk-ORD-lhr-OSL Finally (#3), my attempt to abide the rule mentioned above, but this wouldn't work for me in the tool, presumably since it doesn't allow QR for first flight: OSL-doh-CPT-jnb-HKG-HAN-TYO-ORD-LAX-jfk-ORD-lhr-OSL Any thoughts on the validity any of these? <snip> TYO has 2 airports NRT & HND. If unlucky may have a surface segment that counts in the 16. Better to list all airports, including any the OW tool suggests How is the tool giving you stops vs transits(transfer)? Only allowed 2 stopovers in continent of origin. |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37572907)
How are you getting CPT to JNB? Via LHR(BA) or DOH(QR)? Should that be a surface segment CPT, JNB ?
TYO has 2 airports NRT & HND. If unlucky may have a surface segment that counts in the 16. Better to list all airports, including any the OW tool suggests How is the tool giving you stops vs transits(transfer)? Only allowed 2 stopovers in continent of origin. the tool lists Tokyo as TYO, but you're right, there is transit between NRT and HND, but presumably I still have sufficient segments. I'll update with these details as well. Thanks for your suggestions |
I just tried calling the AA RTW number for an ex-OSL itinerary. Part of it includes SYD-AYQ, which is operated by QF mainline 5 days a week, but only operated by JQ on the day I want to travel. When I asked to add this as a QF codeshare to the ticket (QF 5660), the AA rep told me that they cannot include Jetstar Airways on RTW tickets. At first she asked me "is JQ Jetstar?" so I'm not sure she was overly familiar.
Is this a HUACA situation? I'd happily try a travel agent instead but unsure of the best option. Thanks |
Originally Posted by cmurphy2005
(Post 37585607)
I just tried calling the AA RTW number for an ex-OSL itinerary. Part of it includes SYD-AYQ, which is operated by QF mainline 5 days a week, but only operated by JQ on the day I want to travel. When I asked to add this as a QF codeshare to the ticket (QF 5660), the AA rep told me that they cannot include Jetstar Airways on RTW tickets. At first she asked me "is JQ Jetstar?" so I'm not sure she was overly familiar.
Is this a HUACA situation? I'd happily try a travel agent instead but unsure of the best option. Thanks Travel on any AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/FJ/IB/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL/WY codeshare service operated by AA/AS/AT/AY/BA/CX/FJ/IB/JL/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL/WY is permitted. Other codeshare services not permitted with the exception of QF Codeshare services operated by Jetstar (JQ). |
Originally Posted by cmurphy2005
(Post 37585607)
. . . the AA rep told me that they cannot include Jetstar Airways on RTW tickets.
Originally Posted by link2
(Post 37585617)
Yes, rule 4(j) clearly states that QF*JQ flights are permitted.
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 37586396)
One of the things that I like about the AA RTW desk is while they may not know every rule in detail, all you have to do is point out to them the rule that permits what you're trying to do and they'll happily oblige.
(I've since learned to avoid that particular agent, after they put me on an AA codeshare for a non-AA operated flight without even telling me during a simple date change - which then made it difficult to get back on the flight code I wanted!) |
Originally Posted by link2
(Post 37586568)
Sadly in my experience this isn't always true. The very first time I called the AA RTW desk, the agent refused to let me stop over in Asia both before/after visiting the SWP continent (a rule that was changed many years ago) and doubled down even after I pointed them to the relevant rule. Whilst the agents on the AA RTW desk are generally much more competent than your average reservations agent, HUACA is sometimes still necessary.
(I've since learned to avoid that particular agent, after they put me on an AA codeshare for a non-AA operated flight without even telling me during a simple date change - which then made it difficult to get back on the flight code I wanted!) |
Hi All, Appreciate your expert review comments of this DONE5, I'm a bit rusty on the rules and keen to see if this qualifies.
HND-LHR,MAN-MAD-GIG,BOG-DFW-YYZ-DFW-LAX-BNE-PER-ADL-MEL,ADL-PER-HKG-CTS-SIN-CTS,AKJ-HND This is partly a business trip and non-negotiable stops are MAN, GIG, BOG, YYZ and PER. Add'l logic - trying to avoid APD in LHR, also wanting to maximise Finnair tier points hence YYZ-DFW-LAX-BNE-PER (AA) vs YYZ-HKG-PER (CX) or the various QF alternatives Thanks |
Originally Posted by paul4471
(Post 37592430)
Hi All, Appreciate your expert review comments of this DONE5, I'm a bit rusty on the rules and keen to see if this qualifies.
HND-LHR,MAN-MAD-GIG,BOG-DFW-YYZ-DFW-LAX-BNE-PER-ADL-MEL,ADL-PER-HKG-CTS-SIN-CTS,AKJ-HND This is partly a business trip and non-negotiable stops are MAN, GIG, BOG, YYZ and PER. Add'l logic - trying to avoid APD in LHR, also wanting to maximise Finnair tier points hence YYZ-DFW-LAX-BNE-PER (AA) vs YYZ-HKG-PER (CX) or the various QF alternatives Thanks A map from the Great Circle Mapper - Great Circle Mapper Second reaction: You are allowed only one departure from the country of origin and one arrival back. You have two of each. Third: APD is a UK tax. If you stay more than 24hrs in the UK then you will be charged it. Fourth: You are allowed only two stopovers in your continent of origin - it is unclear how many you have General comment: you say you're a bit rusty on the rules - so it might be worth your while to refresh your memory of them by reading through the User Guide wiki |
Damn , thanks - bloody chatGPT I had thought surface sectors counted but it said they do'nt - should not have believed it. OK well then the new look journey would be:
HND-LHR-GIG,BOG-DFW-YYZ-DFW-LAX-BNE-PER-ADL-PER-HKG-CTS-SIN-CTS-HND Does that look ok? Have to suck up the Heathrow APD Does anyone know if AA codeshares on QF metal count for Finnair multiplier (AA - 275% vs QF - 125%) |
Originally Posted by paul4471
(Post 37592447)
Damn , thanks - bloody chatGPT I had thought surface sectors counted but it said they do'nt - should not have believed it. OK well then the new look journey would be:
HND-LHR-GIG,BOG-DFW-YYZ-DFW-LAX-BNE-PER-ADL-PER-HKG-CTS-SIN-CTS-HND Does that look ok? Have to suck up the Heathrow APD Does anyone know if AA codeshares on QF metal count for Finnair multiplier (AA - 275% vs QF - 125%) I have added more comments to your earlier post, which you may have missed. The issues with your new itinerary are repeated returns to your country of origin, and too many stopovers in your continent of origin (max of two allowed) |
Originally Posted by paul4471
(Post 37592447)
....I had thought surface sectors counted but it said they don't - should not have believed it.......
<snip> Does anyone know if AA codeshares on QF metal count for Finnair multiplier (AA - 275% vs QF - 125%).. OW Rules https://www.oneworld.com/round-the-world FAQ What are RTW rules leads to https://assets.ctfassets.net/m9ph4qv...5_DEC_2025.pdf And a useful QF guide (2018) https://www.qantas.com/content/dam/q...continents.pdf In OW the marketed flights determine earnings. So if you can get as AA codeshare D class should be OK. Those ffp's with revenue based earnings can be more complicated. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c32fc9d433.jpg |
Thankyou both, and yep I'll try brush up. Having to book these at very short notice so scrambling to try find availability and get it all in order but always trying to make at least reasonable use of the available segments.
Having now searched D Avail, I think I've landed on this then: NRT-xFRA-LHR-GIG,BOG-xMIA-LGA-YYZ-xSEA-YVR-xSYD-PER-ADL-PER-HKG-SIN-HND |
Keep in mind that what you find in "D" availability on publicly available tools is not necessarily the same as what is actually available for RTW tickets.
I find it to be more of an issue with "A" fares on first class RTWs. |
Originally Posted by Always Flyin
(Post 37593279)
Keep in mind that what you find in "D" availability on publicly available tools is not necessarily the same as what is actually available for RTW tickets.
I find it to be more of an issue with "A" fares on first class RTWs. But I realize people like to think Expertflyer is the final answer on availability for all ticketing situations (it's not). |
Originally Posted by Always Flyin
(Post 37593279)
Keep in mind that what you find in "D" availability on publicly available tools is not necessarily the same as what is actually available for RTW tickets.
I find it to be more of an issue with "A" fares on first class RTWs. |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37592518)
Surface sectors count in the 16 total, but the in the continent count. Had this come up several times in recent posts
Not sure if that was overlooked because of numerous changes I had to do or if that is permitted by the rules. |
Originally Posted by LilZeppelin
(Post 37593579)
One of my ex CAI rtws contained 17 segments if counting the unflown surface sector between origin and destination (within ME such as CAI AMM).
Not sure if that was overlooked because of numerous changes I had to do or if that is permitted by the rules. 3015 rule 4 (c) (c) Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point, except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows: a. within the country of origin b. within the Middle East c. between the United States and Canada d. between HKG and China e. between Malaysia and SIN f. within Africa g. between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37593680)
16 segments(coupons) is a technical limit of e-tickets. Pre e-ticket with paper tickets/coupons it was 32.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e63a00e1f0.jpg |
off topic
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 37594120)
When did e-tickets start?....
<snip> E-tickets in the airline industry were devised in about 1994,[1] and have now largely replaced the older multi-layered paper ticketing systems. Since 1 June 2008, it has been mandatory for IATA members to use e-ticketing. Where paper tickets are still available, some airlines charge a fee for issuing paper tickets <snip> |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 37594163)
Those of us who remember paper carbon copy airline tickets are of a certain age!
My first OWE was an AONE4, ex-MRU. That was back when the ticket had to be purchased in the origin country of your first flight, and Mauritius was the cheapest originating country. I bought the ticket from the local BA ticket office in Mauritius. It was my first time in the nose of a 747, first time in international F. That first flight was BA to LHR. The BA staff in Mauritius were all lovely to deal with on the phone, but didn't really understand the rules and cared even less about trying to follow them, so you could pretty much get them to do whatever you wanted. After a few years I moved on to Mindpearl in South Africa (can't remember why). Both BA and Mindpearl shipped the paper tickets to me in Boston by DHL. I remember buying a couple of tickets from the Flight Centre in Australia. In particular, when OneWorld had the 10% off sale for the 10th year anniversary, I did an AONE5 with a friend where the entire trip was an MR, bought that one from Flight Centre. We never stayed in a city for more than 24 hours, except SEA where I had a hospital appointment, and SIN where we stopped for something like 26 hours. Since then, I've only used the AA RTW Desk. |
My first xONEx was of 20 segments. That was the limit in 2005.
It was comprised of 5 x 4 voucher paper ticket booklets stapled together. |
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