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hsmall Dec 10, 2025 7:05 am

I wonder if you kind people would kindly verify an itinerary for me, please. It's a DONE. I should add that I have fallen into the trap of already booking this on Qantas, but I believe that I am missing a legitimate pair of flights from London. They're not yet ticketed and are highlighted.

HND-LHR-DBV-LHR-MLA-LHR-YYZ-JFK-SFO-NAN-BNE-CHC-SYD-SIN-NRT

All of these are stopovers. I could not get the useless online tool to ticket it, and I left out the hop to and from Malta. At the risk of having a difficult conversation with Qantas, can anyone see why I should not phone and add that London Malta London return? It means that there are four intra-EME flights which is within the limit. And yes, I know, I should not have booked this until I had worked this out!

Thank you!

izzik Dec 10, 2025 11:40 am

if it hasn't ticketed, why not just cancel?

allset2travel Dec 10, 2025 7:39 pm


Originally Posted by hsmall (Post 37474042)
I wonder if you kind people would kindly verify an itinerary for me, please. It's a DONE. I should add that I have fallen into the trap of already booking this on Qantas, but I believe that I am missing a legitimate pair of flights from London. They're not yet ticketed and are highlighted.

HND-LHR-DBV-LHR-MLA-LHR-YYZ-JFK-SFO-NAN-BNE-CHC-SYD-SIN-NRT

All of these are stopovers. I could not get the useless online tool to ticket it, and I left out the hop to and from Malta. At the risk of having a difficult conversation with Qantas, can anyone see why I should not phone and add that London Malta London return? It means that there are four intra-EME flights which is within the limit. And yes, I know, I should not have booked this until I had worked this out!

Thank you!

Looks like you already have 4 flights in Europe/ME (rule allows up to 4).

Since you have NOT yet ticketed, I'd avoid ticketing with QF & heading toward AA RTW desk instead.

hsmall Dec 11, 2025 6:10 am


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 37475344)
Looks like you already have 4 flights in Europe/ME (rule allows up to 4).

Since you have NOT yet ticketed, I'd avoid ticketing with QF & heading toward AA RTW desk instead.

Thanks. This was a gross mistake but I have ticketed it (I should not have used the word "ticketed" to describe the position where I booked what I could and what I could was ticketed. . I am confused though. There are surely only two intra European flights, namely to DBV and back (I could not get it to accept the return to MLA). I want to grit my teeth and call Qantas to add them. Am I missing something?

Franky The Anorak Dec 12, 2025 4:27 am


Originally Posted by hsmall (Post 37474042)
I wonder if you kind people would kindly verify an itinerary for me, please. It's a DONE. I should add that I have fallen into the trap of already booking this on Qantas, but I believe that I am missing a legitimate pair of flights from London. They're not yet ticketed and are highlighted.

HND-LHR-DBV-LHR-MLA-LHR-YYZ-JFK-SFO-NAN-BNE-CHC-SYD-SIN-NRT

All of these are stopovers. I could not get the useless online tool to ticket it, and I left out the hop to and from Malta. At the risk of having a difficult conversation with Qantas, can anyone see why I should not phone and add that London Malta London return? It means that there are four intra-EME flights which is within the limit. And yes, I know, I should not have booked this until I had worked this out!

Thank you!

BA fly to MLA from LGW and not LHR.

hsmall Dec 12, 2025 11:30 am


Originally Posted by Franky The Anorak (Post 37477630)
BA fly to MLA from LGW and not LHR.

Good point Please consider any pair of European flights from LHR.

allset2travel Dec 13, 2025 3:44 pm


Originally Posted by Franky The Anorak (Post 37477630)
BA fly to MLA from LGW and not LHR.

Just FYI (I do think all of us already know).
This will ADD 1 more segment to OP's itinerary (ground segment). It is counted as 1/16.

Franky The Anorak Dec 13, 2025 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 37480285)
Just FYI (I do think all of us already know).
This will ADD 1 more segment to OP's itinerary (ground segment). It is counted as 1/16.

It would ADD 2 more segments as Oneworld don't fly LGW-YYZ so there would need to be a second surface sector LGW-LHR.

izzik Dec 16, 2025 9:58 pm

DONE3 with AA
(Marketing)/(Operating)
AA/JL KIX-LAX
AA/AA LAX-ORD
AA/AA ORD-SFO-ORD
AA/AA ORD-YUL-ORD
AA/AA ORD-LAX
AA/QR LAX-DOH
BA/BA DOH-LHR
BA/BA ARN-LHR-TLS
CX/CX MAD-HKG-TPE
CX/CX TPE-NGO

$5055 base + $800 taxes/fees + $444 carrier imposed fees = $6299

hsmall Dec 17, 2025 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by Franky The Anorak (Post 37480663)
It would ADD 2 more segments as Oneworld don't fly LGW-YYZ so there would need to be a second surface sector LGW-LHR.

Yes. My mistake as I say. I meant to add a pair of flights from LHR. So we agree that this conforms with all the rules?

HND-LHR-DBV-LHR-BER-LHR-YYZ-JFK-SFO-NAN-BNE-CHC-SYD-SIN-NRT

Thanks you and sorry for confusion...



Franky The Anorak Dec 18, 2025 7:51 am


Originally Posted by hsmall (Post 37487294)
Yes. My mistake as I say. I meant to add a pair of flights from LHR. So we agree that this conforms with all the rules?

HND-LHR-DBV-LHR-BER-LHR-YYZ-JFK-SFO-NAN-BNE-CHC-SYD-SIN-NRT

Thanks you and sorry for confusion...

Yes, that is a valid XONE4 routing but you are only using 14/16 permitted sectors so you are leaving two sectors on the table. You are only using 2/6 permitted sectors in North America and 3/4 permitted sectors in South West Pacific so can squeeze more value out of the ticket in either of those areas.

Giles_G Dec 20, 2025 4:49 pm

EX OSL DONE5- max 2 stops in Europe AND Africa?!
 
Hey community, hoping you can help. I am hitting a wall with the one world explorer fare. I would like to depart OSL have three stopovers in RAK, LHR, and NBO. In most documents (including the BA fare summary document) it says "Maximum 2 stopovers permitted in the continent of origin", which would signify a further stopover in Africa is fine. But my agent has highlighted another rule which says maximum "2 in area 2" which would suggest that if I go to Africa I can I only take 1 stop in Europe. What is going on? Many thanks for your ideas and advice.

Here's my hoped for itinerary:

OSL-LHR-LGW-RAK (first 'Europe' stop)
RAK-MAD-BOG Open jaw
BAQ-MIA-LAX
LAX-KIX
KIX-BKK
BKK-CMB-BOM
BOM-LHR (2nd Europe stop)
LHR-NBO
NBO-LHR-OSL

sambagrrl07 Dec 20, 2025 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by Giles_G (Post 37492550)

OSL-LHR-LGW-RAK (first 'Europe' stop)
RAK-MAD-BOG Open jaw
BAQ-MIA-LAX
LAX-KIX
KIX-BKK
BKK-CMB-BOM
BOM-LHR (2nd Europe stop)
LHR-NBO
NBO-LHR-OSL

It looks like you have five segments in Europe?

OSL-LHR
LHR-LGW
LGW-RAK
RAK-MAD
—-
LHR-OSL

Edited because I left out a segment.

Mwenenzi Dec 20, 2025 6:10 pm


Originally Posted by sambagrrl07 (Post 37492554)
It looks like you have five segments in Europe?

OSL-LHR
LHR-LGW
LGW-RAK
RAK-MAD
—-
LHR-OSL

Edited because I left out a segment.

From 3015 rule 4

(h) A minimum of 3 and maximum of 16 segments, including surface segments between any 2 airports,
are permitted for the entire journey. Free flight segments within each continent are limited as follows:

Which is generally taken to mean only flight segments count for continent count, but ground segment count in the 16 total.
The bold flight is in the OW rules

====
No mention of "area 2"

8. STOPOVERS
Permitted.
NOTE:
1. Minimum 2 stopovers required
2. Maximum 2 stopovers permitted in the continent of origin

Cannot find in the rule "rule which says maximum "2 in area 2" [but may be wrong]
Continents are defined as
  • Europe-Middle East and Africa
  • these 2 continents together shall Comprise TC2

pandaperth Dec 20, 2025 10:45 pm


Originally Posted by sambagrrl07 (Post 37492554)
It looks like you have five segments in Europe?

OSL-LHR
LHR-LGW
LGW-RAK
RAK-MAD
—-
LHR-OSL

Edited because I left out a segment.

Consisting of:
4 flight segments (max allowed in Europe/Middle East), and
1 surface segment (no restriction on surface segments)


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