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Jan 28, 2015 | 11:16 am
#211
Company Representative - ExpertFlyer
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,924
Apologies to all if there is an obvious answer to this question...
I just want to find out the cost of an LCIR22 or DCIR22 beginning in Manila or somewhere close by.
I feel like I have searched extensively for the answer to that question, and have even purchased a 6 month diamond level subscription to the KVS tool.
Yet I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get it to show me such fares! Can anyone point me in the right direction? Is there a sticky I have missed?
Thanks in advance for your collective knowledge...
I just want to find out the cost of an LCIR22 or DCIR22 beginning in Manila or somewhere close by.
I feel like I have searched extensively for the answer to that question, and have even purchased a 6 month diamond level subscription to the KVS tool.
Yet I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get it to show me such fares! Can anyone point me in the right direction? Is there a sticky I have missed?
Thanks in advance for your collective knowledge...
http://www.expertflyer.com/frequent-...areInformation
Jan 28, 2015 | 1:48 pm
#212
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 12,952
The way I found to do it (and others can show me a better way maybe) is to go to Fares Tab
Enter MNL to any other airport that a fare is likely to be issued for eg NRT
Choose which OW airline will issue and sell you the ticket (eg JL), doesn't matter if you choose OW or RT then click GO button, choose currency for display
A list of fares will come up
Then click on any fare and right click and a menu pops up, choose VIEW ROUTING RULES ----> OTHER FARE
A box comes up and you can type into it
Put in the following
MNL/MNL/JL/DCIR22, click enter and bingo. You can change airline and Circle types of course as needed.
Enter MNL to any other airport that a fare is likely to be issued for eg NRT
Choose which OW airline will issue and sell you the ticket (eg JL), doesn't matter if you choose OW or RT then click GO button, choose currency for display
A list of fares will come up
Then click on any fare and right click and a menu pops up, choose VIEW ROUTING RULES ----> OTHER FARE
A box comes up and you can type into it
Put in the following
MNL/MNL/JL/DCIR22, click enter and bingo. You can change airline and Circle types of course as needed.
For more details and examples, please consult the RTW section of the KVS Tool User Guide at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#RTW
Jan 28, 2015 | 3:23 pm
#213
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne
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Fare Information Search:
Departing MNL on 28/03/15 for MNL, Flying CX , Purchasing at MNL, Viewing in currency USD, Validated Results
Fare Basis Airline Booking Trip Type Fare Cabin Effective Expiration Min/Max Advanced
Class Date Date Stay Purchase Req
LAS13 CX L Round-Trip 2205.00 (USD) E 05 / 12M
LAS17 CX L Round-Trip 2537.00 (USD) E 05 / 12M
LCIR22 CX L Round-Trip 2900.00 (USD) E 10 / 12M
LCIR26 CX L Round-Trip 3539.00 (USD) E 10 / 12M
LGLOB26 CX L Round-Trip 3638.00 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE3 CX L Round-Trip 3638.00 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONEWC3 CX L Round-Trip 3638.00 (USD) E -- / 12M
LCIR29SA CX L Round-Trip 3772.00 (USD) E 10 / 12M
LGLOB29 CX L Round-Trip 4334.00 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE4 CX L Round-Trip 4334.00 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONEWC4 CX L Round-Trip 4334.00 (USD) E -- / 12M
DAS13 CX D Round-Trip 4385.00 (USD) B 03 / 12M
DAS17 CX D Round-Trip 5040.00 (USD) B 03 / 12M
LGLOB34 CX L Round-Trip 5104.00 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE5 CX L Round-Trip 5104.00 (USD) E -- / 12M
DCIR22 CX D Round-Trip 5453.00 (USD) B 05 / 12M
LGLOB39 CX L Round-Trip 5940.00 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE6 CX L Round-Trip 5940.00 (USD) E -- / 12M
AAS13 CX A Round-Trip 6174.00 (USD) F 03 / 12M
DCIR26 CX D Round-Trip 6653.00 (USD) B 05 / 12M
DCIR29SA CX D Round-Trip 7089.00 (USD) B 05 / 12M
AAS17 CX A Round-Trip 7106.00 (USD) F 03 / 12M
ACIR22 CX A Round-Trip 7549.00 (USD) F 05 / 12M
ACIR26 CX A Round-Trip 9264.00 (USD) F 05 / 12M
IGLOB26 CX I Round-Trip 9748.00 (USD) B -- / 12M
IONE3 CX I Round-Trip 9748.00 (USD) B -- / 12M
ACIR29SA CX A Round-Trip 9872.00 (USD) F 05 / 12M
DONE3 CX D Round-Trip 9947.00 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONEWC3 CX D Round-Trip 9947.00 (USD) B -- / 12M
DGLOB34 CX D Round-Trip 11346.00 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE4 CX D Round-Trip 11346.00 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONEWC4 CX D Round-Trip 11346.00 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE5 CX D Round-Trip 12218.00 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE6 CX D Round-Trip 13505.00 (USD) B -- / 12M
AONE3 CX A Round-Trip 15379.00 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONEWC3 CX A Round-Trip 15379.00 (USD) F -- / 12M
AGLOB34 CX A Round-Trip 17509.00 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE4 CX A Round-Trip 17509.00 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONEWC4 CX A Round-Trip 17509.00 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE5 CX A Round-Trip 19520.00 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE6 CX A Round-Trip 21575.00 (USD) F -- / 12M
Jan 30, 2015 | 7:40 pm
#214
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: HKG
Programs: QF Plat, Asiana Diamond Plus
Posts: 69
Finding CIRPAC fares on KVS - thanks
Thanks to all for the helpful suggestions - the link to the KVS FAQ, and the listing of CIRPAC and RTW fares ex-MNL.
I should have been able to find this without asking, but your quick responses saved me a lot of searching...
Now to the planning phase!
I should have been able to find this without asking, but your quick responses saved me a lot of searching...
Now to the planning phase!
Dec 7, 2015 | 10:03 am
#215
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,734
Haven't booked a Circle Pacific ticket before, but thinking of doing so in the next few days. For background, I'm planning on booking two tickets as follows:
Ticket #1:
[AA]YYZ-oJFK-xLAS-[surface segment]-HNL-[QF]xSYD-oAKL-[CX]xHKG-xJFK-YYZ
Ticket #2:
[AA]YYZ-oJFK-xLAX-[QF]xSYD-oAKL-[CX]xHKG-xJFK-YYZ
Now some questions:
Thanks for help!
Ticket #1:
[AA]YYZ-oJFK-xLAS-[surface segment]-HNL-[QF]xSYD-oAKL-[CX]xHKG-xJFK-YYZ
Ticket #2:
[AA]YYZ-oJFK-xLAX-[QF]xSYD-oAKL-[CX]xHKG-xJFK-YYZ
Now some questions:
- Do these seem to be valid ACIR26 routings?
- It seems like the general consensus is to ticket using AA. Does that seem correct based on this itinerary?
- Is there enough travel on AA metal that they're going to be willing to ticket me?
- I'm traveling to Canada this Saturday and would ideally like to start the trips on Sunday. Can I reserve this now, pay once I get to Toronto and fly the next day?
Thanks for help!
Dec 7, 2015 | 10:28 am
#216
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
Haven't booked a Circle Pacific ticket before, but thinking of doing so in the next few days. For background, I'm planning on booking two tickets as follows:
Ticket #1:
[AA]YYZ-oJFK-xLAS-[surface segment]-HNL-[QF]xSYD-oAKL-[CX]xHKG-xJFK-YYZ
Ticket #2:
[AA]YYZ-oJFK-xLAX-[QF]xSYD-oAKL-[CX]xHKG-xJFK-YYZ
Now some questions:
Thanks for help!
Ticket #1:
[AA]YYZ-oJFK-xLAS-[surface segment]-HNL-[QF]xSYD-oAKL-[CX]xHKG-xJFK-YYZ
Ticket #2:
[AA]YYZ-oJFK-xLAX-[QF]xSYD-oAKL-[CX]xHKG-xJFK-YYZ
Now some questions:
- Do these seem to be valid ACIR26 routings?
- It seems like the general consensus is to ticket using AA. Does that seem correct based on this itinerary?
- Is there enough travel on AA metal that they're going to be willing to ticket me?
- I'm traveling to Canada this Saturday and would ideally like to start the trips on Sunday. Can I reserve this now, pay once I get to Toronto and fly the next day?
Thanks for help!
- Yes, they appear valid to me (have just perused the rules in EF to refresh my memory)
- Have no opinion other than I prefer to ticket my xONEx tickets with them, and I'd expect them to be OK with these tickets too
- AA doesn't require AA metal to ticket, but it does insist on being the marketing carrier on at least one 'over water' segment. I suggest you book both HKG-JFK flights as the AA-codeshare on CX metal and that will be sufficient
- Should be possible, but this seems like a YMMV situation
Dec 8, 2015 | 2:05 pm
#218
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,734
Dec 9, 2015 | 1:29 am
#219
Moderator, Hilton Honors
Join Date: Nov 2003
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First check when ticketing is open at the airport. Second allow lots of time. There may only be one person on the desk and they may be away from the desk (on a break) or dealing with other tickets, especially if one of the airline's flights has been cancelled or seriously delayed.
Dec 9, 2015 | 11:38 am
#220
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Posts: 9,131
Dec 9, 2015 | 12:21 pm
#221
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SYD BXG
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It should be fine. I did this once, years back (when there was the Canada exception). In addition to the counter, Toronto has an Admiral's Club.
I have ticketed a CircPac at AA YYZ a few years ago and, as reported, it was quite painless. It took 30 min and there was nobody else around. Most of that time was spent on the phone checking all was OK and for the card machine to print out the tickets.
I certainly wouldn't be relying on a tight departure time and getting the tickets. Too risky. Indeed, with AA now bouncing CCs that are billed in non local countries, I'd have lots of time on my side and plenty of "Plan Bs".
Dec 9, 2015 | 2:29 pm
#222
Join Date: Aug 2004
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My point is that if the counter is too busy, the AC should be able to handle ticketing.
The only report we have of insistence on a CC with an in-country billing address is for South Africa. The poster mentioned a plan of arriving in YYZ, purchasing the ticket on arrival, and departing the following day. That should be doable. In an emergency, there are travel agents in town that can issue RTWs.
The only report we have of insistence on a CC with an in-country billing address is for South Africa. The poster mentioned a plan of arriving in YYZ, purchasing the ticket on arrival, and departing the following day. That should be doable. In an emergency, there are travel agents in town that can issue RTWs.
Dec 10, 2015 | 7:28 pm
#223
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The only report we have of insistence on a CC with an in-country billing address is for South Africa. The poster mentioned a plan of arriving in YYZ, purchasing the ticket on arrival, and departing the following day. That should be doable. In an emergency, there are travel agents in town that can issue RTWs.
I also asked if I could go to their office in person with the same Oz AX cc to pay for the ticket - and they said "no".
Dec 11, 2015 | 9:38 pm
#224
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
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AA GSA in HKG recently refused to issue a carefully set up xCIRC29SA (by the AA RTW desk) with payment by an Oz billed AX card. I tried several times and each time they said they would be happy to issue the ticket but at the Oz price - because the CC is billed in Oz $. They said if I could quote a HKG billed card then they would issue the ticket at the HKG price.
I also asked if I could go to their office in person with the same Oz AX cc to pay for the ticket - and they said "no".
I also asked if I could go to their office in person with the same Oz AX cc to pay for the ticket - and they said "no".
Dec 12, 2015 | 5:02 am
#225
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Now that you have a valid itinerary, try setting it up by phone with CX in Hong Kong. You should also be able to pay by phone with any credit card, according to earlier postings. BA might also work.