LAN takeover of TAM
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If LATAM definitely stays in OW, I just don't see how the EU will approve of IAG buying TP. It will give OW and insane amount of pricing power from the Iberian peninsula to S America. Combining AA, LATAM, IB and TP would be nearly monopolistic.
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but if they are bought by LH this would increase their already unhealthy stranglehold they have in CE market, although I doubt the clowns running EU antitrust would give more than a cursory glance.
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Slightly adjusting the topic:
What does the provision of the Chilean government's approval that requires LAN and TAM to open their FF programs to other airlines mean for oneworld?
If smaller rivals participate in the program, would they be treated as oneworld affiliates?
Is this provision meaningful or can LATAM make up whatever participation requirements and conditions they want, effectively closing the program to outside airlines?
Sorry, I haven't seen a good explanation of the provision, since my Spanish is quite poor and my vague notion of what something says in Portuguese is based on its similarity to Spanish.
What does the provision of the Chilean government's approval that requires LAN and TAM to open their FF programs to other airlines mean for oneworld?
If smaller rivals participate in the program, would they be treated as oneworld affiliates?
Is this provision meaningful or can LATAM make up whatever participation requirements and conditions they want, effectively closing the program to outside airlines?
Sorry, I haven't seen a good explanation of the provision, since my Spanish is quite poor and my vague notion of what something says in Portuguese is based on its similarity to Spanish.
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Personally, would rather have IAG focus on the Italian market and make a bid for IG. Other than IB, OW is rather weak in the Mediterranean area. Also, I'm wondering if IAG can capture some LIS-Brazil O&D for less money than buying TP itself. Although, I do like the idea of OW stealing another member from Star.
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In theory, G3 could take advantage of it, but I suspect the Brazilian govt would have something to say about that. Based on stated routes like MVD-SCL, Pluna (PU) could make such a request.
Participating in LANPass and being an affiliate are two different things. For instance, OpenSkies(EC) participates in BAEC, but is not a OW affiliate member.
If ... an airline ... ask to participate in the Frequent Flyer Program of Latam, the latter shall extend for five years all those benefits. "
Based on that, I would imagine that LA has little ability to restrict participation of any airline that qualifies under the stated provision.
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Now approved by Brazil
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16191762
Latin America's biggest airline LATAM is approved
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The merger of two major Latin American airlines has been approved, creating the largest carrier in the region.
Brazil's anti-trust authorities said they approved the merger of the Brazilian airline TAM with Chile's LAN, first proposed in 2010.
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The merger of two major Latin American airlines has been approved, creating the largest carrier in the region.
Brazil's anti-trust authorities said they approved the merger of the Brazilian airline TAM with Chile's LAN, first proposed in 2010.
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Especially this bit:
Expect some heavy lobbying from Oneworld and Star. Hopefully the fact that LAN has been part of Oneworld much longer than TAM has been part of Star, will swing them our way.
Happy Travels.
Brazil's body also set some conditions, including a reduction in the number of flights between Sao Paulo and Santiago and that the two airlines join a single international body.
Happy Travels.
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Odds are very much in favor of LATAM going to OW, IMO. ^
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LATAM would be more valuable than Taca/Avianca for either alliance.
I hope OW is able to get/keep them, it would be a HUGE blow to OW if LATAM left.
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To summarise, LA & TAM now has three separate options:
A. Cancel the Merger or
B. Join oneworld
C. Join Skyteam
Either A or C are extremely unlikely.
Last edited by serfty; Dec 15, 2011 at 9:48 pm
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Yup, my guess as well would be that JJ will go with OW, where LA has a much stronger position compared to them in *A. We'll just have to wait and see, won't we?
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As is Aerolinas Argentinas (AR), which si the only other major airlne in Argentina besides LAN. (Both have subsidiaries for intra-Argentina flights.)
So I don't see how Argentna would allow both of them to be in the same alliance (unless Argentina doesn't care about such things the way their neighbor countries do).
So I don't see how Argentna would allow both of them to be in the same alliance (unless Argentina doesn't care about such things the way their neighbor countries do).
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