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SRQ Guy Aug 20, 2005 9:33 am

I'd suck it up and take the pay cut or, more likely, find a better job.

dg4255 Aug 20, 2005 9:34 am

2 flts to/from Denver have already cxld or been delayed due to "irregular ops" or "unscheduled maintenance"... Here is a copy and paste from WorldSpan..

FLT: 554/20AUG
DEP SKD ACT ARR SKD ACT REMARKS
DEN 905A CNLD MSP 1156A XZZ
CANCELLED DUE TO IRREGULAR OPERATIONS
MSP 100P CNLD PHL 435P XZZ
CANCELLED DUE TO IRREGULAR OPERATIONS
GATE EQUIP DATE GATE DATE
DEN S20AUG MSP S20AUG
MSP S20AUG PHL S20AUG
1PHL/LX MSPPHL CANCELLED DUE TO IRREGULAR OPERATIONS-CRC/HP/19AU
G/2057Z
1DEN/LX DENMSP CANCELLED DUE TO IRREGULAR OPERATIONS-CRC/HP/19AU
G/2101Z

Looks like they were cxld last nite.

jimc_usa Aug 20, 2005 9:34 am


Originally Posted by LTRS
If there were no such thing as strikes option number 1 would never be a possibility. Unions are the reason why Americans (whether union workers or not at this point) don't make 50 cents an hour like workers in Mexico. Might be time to reread your history books.


And wear concrete boots! :D

LTRS Aug 20, 2005 9:35 am


Originally Posted by H2O_Goalie
It has happened to me. I found another job.

That's definitely the better option than in caving in over and over to executives who want workers to pay the price for mismanagement.

SRQ Guy Aug 20, 2005 9:36 am

I'm going to buy some tickets on NW to show my support for management. I'm currently a 100% DL flyer. :)

MikeMpls Aug 20, 2005 9:37 am


Originally Posted by gemac
Past experience indicates that they will eventually accept a contract identical to, or substantially identical to the one now on the table.

Most past experience doesn't involve such extensive strike preparation on the part of the (ex)employer. I doubt AMFA will be back.

dream7 Aug 20, 2005 9:40 am


Originally Posted by LTRS
. . . I'll not spend my dollars with a company who expects their workers to give up pensions, insurance, and accept huge pay cuts . . .

Then you will be walking instead of flying because in just a few years, all major airlines will have cut or be cutting their workers' compensation radically. Either that or they will be out of business. The math is simple. My transcon fares are $300 now, not $2000. Can't pay the same as you once did if that is the case.

LTRS Aug 20, 2005 9:40 am


Originally Posted by jimc_usa
Have you really heard both sides of the story?

As far as NWA goes, they employ almost twice as many mechanics as other airlines, mostly because of an aging fleet, that would have been upgraded sooner if not for 9/11.
No one wants anyone to lose jobs, but if cuts are not made then NWA may go out of business entirely and think how many jobs will be lost then.
It is a matter of a few helping the many!

As far as unions go - yes they did help with wages and safety, but when you look at the teamsters and National Union of Teachers they have done a lot more harm than good. Read this months Readers Digest on the teachers union.

The few are helping the many by refusing to take further cuts. As for your reader's digest article -- the goal in this country since the mid-80's is to break the backs of unions. Why? Because 4% of the population controlling over 50% of the wealth in this country is just not enough for those at the top. If you support that mentality you are sticking a knife in your own back, no matter what you do for a living.

You want to live in a Walmart America, where the 4 major stock holders control $110 billion dollars of wealth while providing their employees with crap benefits and poverty wages? I don't. But, that is where we are headed with this mentality.

yogimax Aug 20, 2005 9:43 am


Originally Posted by dg4255
2 flts to/from Denver have already cxld or been delayed due to "irregular ops" or "unscheduled maintenance"... Here is a copy and paste from WorldSpan..

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I really don't think it's necessary to post details of every delayed or cancelled flight. A daily summary might be beneficial.

LTRS Aug 20, 2005 9:44 am


Originally Posted by dream7
Then you will be walking instead of flying because in just a few years, all major airlines will have cut or be cutting their workers' compensation radically. Either that or they will be out of business. The math is simple. My transcon fares are $300 now, not $2000. Can't pay the same as you once did if that is the case.

You've hit upon the solution -- charge more for the flights! I am happy to pay it. The cost gets passed on to my customers, who are all driving BMWs, Lexus and Benz's. They can afford it.

socrates Aug 20, 2005 9:44 am


Originally Posted by LTRS
And bye bye to my NW status, because I won't be able to make it this year. I won't cross a picket line. And frankly, shame on the NW FA's and pilots for doing so. :td:

Bye Bye LTRS, thanks for freeing up another F seat for us lowly Silvers

SRQ Guy Aug 20, 2005 9:45 am


Originally Posted by LTRS
You've hit upon the solution -- charge more for the flights! I am happy to pay it. The cost gets passed on to my customers, who are all driving BMWs, Lexus and Benz's. They can afford it.

Darn, if it only weren't for those pesky competitors. LOL!

LTRS Aug 20, 2005 9:45 am


Originally Posted by SRQ Guy
I'm going to buy some tickets on NW to show my support for management. I'm currently a 100% DL flyer. :)

Great! Be sure to pick up about $9K worth to make up for me. :)

SRQ Guy Aug 20, 2005 9:46 am


Originally Posted by LTRS
Great! Be sure to pick up about $9K worth to make up for me. :)


I have about $20k left for the year. I'll throw most of that to them. :)

LTRS Aug 20, 2005 9:46 am


Originally Posted by socrates
Bye Bye LTRS, thanks for freeing up another F seat for us lowly Silvers

You're most welcome! It's my pleasure! Happy flying. :)


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