TOPIC: Strike as a General Issue >> Your Thoughts
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:20 pm
#226
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Originally Posted by NOLAnwGOLD
OH GROW UP BOYZ AND GIRLZ!!!
The situation is bad and really there is no good solution. Can you blame either side?? I can't....realities of life have flinally caught up with both sides and is't sad, unfortunate but unavoidable.
We could help out by giving an extra $50-100 for each ticket we buy....anyone game?
The situation is bad and really there is no good solution. Can you blame either side?? I can't....realities of life have flinally caught up with both sides and is't sad, unfortunate but unavoidable.
We could help out by giving an extra $50-100 for each ticket we buy....anyone game?
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:21 pm
#227
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Certainly would not be an easy vote, but the choice for the 50% who would lose their jobs is between (i) no job, but severance package (if they agreed to the contract), or (ii) no job, and no severance (which is what they have bought themselves now by going on strike.
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:22 pm
#228
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Goodie!!!
Originally Posted by BebackNaminute
1-877-700-pfaa To Hear Message
-Alan
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:23 pm
#229
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Originally Posted by Poopdeck90210
Nice... I wonder if the "toolbox" in this article on the Star Tribune website REALLY belonged to the NW mechanic that is pictured "rolling 'er own up into his pick-up": http://www.startribune.com/images/em...48_153423.html
Things that make you go, hmm...
Things that make you go, hmm...
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:24 pm
#230
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With the pilots and FAs crossing the picket line, it looks like AMFA is out there on their own.
Advantage: Northwest
Advantage: Northwest
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:25 pm
#231
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Originally Posted by channa
If they did, I'm sure it'd be posted in the Northwest Newsstand.
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:26 pm
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Originally Posted by ggrigsby
Does anyone knows if the Pilots and FA's are going to honor the picket lines? I fly out on Monday and I hate to make the 6 hour drive from MPS.
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:26 pm
#233
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I think this thread is getting way too emotional. I feel for the mechanics, at the same time I feel that NWA has to change to survive. I hope that after both sides beat their chests, they will come to an equitable agreement.
All mechanics I've seen have always been professional. They are certainly not apes, and whether they are on strike or not, should be treated fairly.
All mechanics I've seen have always been professional. They are certainly not apes, and whether they are on strike or not, should be treated fairly.
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:26 pm
#234
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Big ^ to FAs. Cooler heads prevail; we all are better off in the long run. Thanks.
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:28 pm
#235
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Ah...
Originally Posted by StSebastian
Having delivered a NW mechanic's toolbox and all of their equipment to the hangar, and seeing everyone else's individual toolboxes there I'm sure those were actually mechanic's tools and not the airline's. They're removing them to prevent damage by replacement people or others that might be there since that's a very significant investment the mechanic has put into having the tools to do their job.
-Alan
P.S. I will edit my early post to omit the reference to the toolbox article...
Last edited by Poopdeck90210; Aug 19, 2005 at 11:30 pm
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:32 pm
#236
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Originally Posted by Radiocycle
I am on NW338 which is still departing (10:30 PDT scheduled departure) and the FA's are working the flight,
Does anyone know if the PFAA voted to authorize a sympathy strike?
RC
Does anyone know if the PFAA voted to authorize a sympathy strike?
RC
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:35 pm
#237
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Originally Posted by Derrico
I agree boycott NW
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:36 pm
#238
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I moderate using a Treo 650 and yes? I am on NW338,
RC
QUOTE=civicmon]you're not on the plane yet? Are you posting from a phone/PDA?
anyways, all indications are that every other union is working...[/QUOTE]
RC
QUOTE=civicmon]you're not on the plane yet? Are you posting from a phone/PDA?
anyways, all indications are that every other union is working...[/QUOTE]
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero
I think this thread is getting way too emotional. I feel for the mechanics, at the same time I feel that NWA has to change to survive. I hope that after both sides beat their chests, they will come to an equitable agreement.
All mechanics I've seen have always been professional. They are certainly not apes, and whether they are on strike or not, should be treated fairly.
All mechanics I've seen have always been professional. They are certainly not apes, and whether they are on strike or not, should be treated fairly.
Sadly, I think this is ill timed in many regards.
Aug 19, 2005 | 11:42 pm
#240
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Originally Posted by Poopdeck90210
I am unsure of how to respond to your post, convey what I want to convey effectively, and yet still respect your position and the flyertalk TOS. I think that smaller groups of implementors are often times more effective than a larger whole. 9000, 4500, 2000... I think anyone interested in the question you pose should start with the facts... that NW operates and manages 1600 departures a day (according to the labor dispute section of (http://nwa.com). Given this, how many mechanics are needed to keep this program going? 1500... sounds like a good number to me. That's almost 1 mechanic per daily departure. Oh, add in about 300+ management who are going back to backfill and also those NW Mechanics who do not honor the picket line... hmm...
-Alan
-Alan
They can hire thousands of workers and the rest of the people don't have to be on strike to cause a disruption. If the crews decide to write everything up in sympathy there is no way the replacement workers are ever going to be able to address all of those write ups and keep the operation running close to normal. We'll just have to see in the coming morning departure hours.