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the810 Oct 7, 2021 3:43 am


Originally Posted by futuramadramallama (Post 33625289)
What's tourism like in Denmark these days? Pleasant? Cafes/restaurants/bars open?

It's business as usual, no restrictions except at the border.

SusanDK Oct 7, 2021 4:04 am


Originally Posted by futuramadramallama (Post 33625289)
What's tourism like in Denmark these days? Pleasant? Cafes/restaurants/bars open?

Not sure if this is the appropriate thread to ask this in, but this seems to be the only active Covid-era thread on Denmark. :)

I'm here now. No restrictions, everything open and crowded. The only sign of the pandemic, to me, is that there are still a lot of signs referring to "take away available" (more than pre-pandemic and no doubt added in the past year+) and lines / spots on the floor in the shop queues signaling to keep distance.

futuramadramallama Oct 7, 2021 2:21 pm


Originally Posted by the810 (Post 33625402)
It's business as usual, no restrictions except at the border.


Originally Posted by SusanDK (Post 33625419)
I'm here now. No restrictions, everything open and crowded. The only sign of the pandemic, to me, is that there are still a lot of signs referring to "take away available" (more than pre-pandemic and no doubt added in the past year+) and lines / spots on the floor in the shop queues signaling to keep distance.

Thanks! Are hotels or restaurants/bars/shops/etc. asking for some sort of digital pass (with a QR code)? E.g. The kind one would receive from an EU country.

GUWonder Oct 7, 2021 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by futuramadramallama (Post 33626805)
Thanks! Are hotels or restaurants/bars/shops/etc. asking for some sort of digital pass (with a QR code)? E.g. The kind one would receive from an EU country.

Not generally. There may be some exceptions, but I haven't run into any of them this month at least when out and about in central Copenhagen.

Im a new user Oct 7, 2021 5:02 pm


Originally Posted by futuramadramallama (Post 33626805)
Thanks! Are hotels or restaurants/bars/shops/etc. asking for some sort of digital pass (with a QR code)? E.g. The kind one would receive from an EU country.

In the past, you had to provide evidence that you were vaccinated, that you had recently tested negative or that you had recovered from the virus. This is no longer required. If I remember correctly, this requirement was removed in early September. I had to show documents in July and August but not in September.

SusanDK Oct 7, 2021 11:10 pm


Originally Posted by futuramadramallama (Post 33626805)
Thanks! Are hotels or restaurants/bars/shops/etc. asking for some sort of digital pass (with a QR code)? E.g. The kind one would receive from an EU country.

Same experience here as the previous two posters. I've been in a couple of restaurants, a concert venue, Louisiana museum of modern art, and the cinema. No request for documentation at any of them.

Sheikh Yerbooty Oct 8, 2021 12:44 am

There is no longer any requirement to document vaccination or to provide a negative test. None.

What you do have to be careful about, however, is you're driving. Denmark passed a new law earlier this year, targeted at those who drive like lunatics. "Lunatic" driving is defined as exceeding one of the following:
  • Exceeding the speed limit by 100% of more
  • Driving faster than 200 km/h on the motorway
  • Driving with more than 0,2% alcohol in the blood
  • Multiple transgressions over a period of time
If you do that your car will be confiscated, sold and the state will keep the money. Doesn't matter if you've borrowed a friends car, if the car is rented or leased, if it's a company vehicle or if it's a foreign registered car.

The following cases have been brought to trial, and the judges have given the police the authority confiscate and sell the cars:
  • A husband was driving his wife's car. The car was a loaner from the company she worked at. Husband drove more than 100% above limits in a built-up area (limit = 50 km/h)
  • A bloke borrowed his friends Porsche to fetch pizza. Was caught going more than 200 km/h on the motorway
  • A taxi drove more than 100% above the limit in a built-up area
  • A tradesman drove his company owned van at more than 100% above the limit on a country road (limit = 80 km/h)
  • A famous former football player had his Porsche Taycan confiscated for multiple transgressions, including speeding and driving without a valid license
  • A Norwegian national driving through Denmark, en route from Germany to Norway, iwas clocked at 236 km/h on the motorway and had his foreign registered Lamborghini confiscated. Bloke had just spent around 250K Euro buying the car in Germany the same day he got caught
A total of almost 600 cars, or roughly 3 day, have been confiscated since the law came into effect. So far the police has not lost a single case in court.

So, whatever you do, drive carefully. If you get caught in a rented car breaking the "lunatic driving" law, the car will be confiscated and the rental company will send you a bill for the value of the car.

Im a new user Oct 8, 2021 7:03 am


Originally Posted by Sheikh Yerbooty (Post 33627853)
If you do that your car will be confiscated, sold and the state will keep the money. Doesn't matter if you've borrowed a friends car, if the car is rented or leased, if it's a company vehicle or if it's a foreign registered car.

What happens with a stolen car if the thief drives at 300 km/h in Limfjordstunnelen (speed limit 90 km/h)?

GUWonder Oct 8, 2021 7:10 am

Denmark has reopened to "lunatic" bicyclists too. They seem to be as "safe" as ever before the pandemic. :D

TomMM Oct 8, 2021 10:34 am


Originally Posted by Sheikh Yerbooty (Post 33627853)
There is no longer any requirement to document vaccination or to provide a negative test. None.

What you do have to be careful about, however, is you're driving. Denmark passed a new law earlier this year, targeted at those who drive like lunatics. "Lunatic" driving is defined as exceeding one of the following:
  • Exceeding the speed limit by 100% of more
  • Driving faster than 200 km/h on the motorway
  • Driving with more than 0,2% alcohol in the blood
  • Multiple transgressions over a period of time
If you do that your car will be confiscated, sold and the state will keep the money. Doesn't matter if you've borrowed a friends car, if the car is rented or leased, if it's a company vehicle or if it's a foreign registered car.

The following cases have been brought to trial, and the judges have given the police the authority confiscate and sell the cars:
  • A husband was driving his wife's car. The car was a loaner from the company she worked at. Husband drove more than 100% above limits in a built-up area (limit = 50 km/h)
  • A bloke borrowed his friends Porsche to fetch pizza. Was caught going more than 200 km/h on the motorway
  • A taxi drove more than 100% above the limit in a built-up area
  • A tradesman drove his company owned van at more than 100% above the limit on a country road (limit = 80 km/h)
  • A famous former football player had his Porsche Taycan confiscated for multiple transgressions, including speeding and driving without a valid license
  • A Norwegian national driving through Denmark, en route from Germany to Norway, iwas clocked at 236 km/h on the motorway and had his foreign registered Lamborghini confiscated. Bloke had just spent around 250K Euro buying the car in Germany the same day he got caught
A total of almost 600 cars, or roughly 3 day, have been confiscated since the law came into effect. So far the police has not lost a single case in court.

So, whatever you do, drive carefully. If you get caught in a rented car breaking the "lunatic driving" law, the car will be confiscated and the rental company will send you a bill for the value of the car.

Also don’t let a friend use your car.

vanillabean Oct 8, 2021 9:37 pm

“Finland, Denmark and Sweden are limiting the use of Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine in young people over concerns around rare cardiovascular side effects.”

I am not young enough to be that worried! Denmark though throughout the pandemic has a pattern of being very cautious about approval of vaccines, and yet vaccination is the official reason the country has done away with all domestic restrictions.

Nordic countries are restricting the use of Moderna’s Covid vaccine. Here’s why
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/08/nord...d-vaccine.html

GUWonder Oct 9, 2021 12:44 pm

Denmark now has Sweden as a “green country” for purposes of the pandemic.

nacho Oct 9, 2021 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 33630972)
Denmark now has Sweden as a “green country” for purposes of the pandemic.

At the same time, the US and Canada are still orange...even though Canada is allowing Danes to visit Canada without quarantine.

GUWonder Oct 10, 2021 4:46 am


Originally Posted by vanillabean (Post 33629791)
“Finland, Denmark and Sweden are limiting the use of Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine in young people over concerns around rare cardiovascular side effects.”

I am not young enough to be that worried! Denmark though throughout the pandemic has a pattern of being very cautious about approval of vaccines, and yet vaccination is the official reason the country has done away with all domestic restrictions.

Nordic countries are restricting the use of Moderna’s Covid vaccine. Here’s why
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/08/nord...d-vaccine.html

The use of Moderna’s vaccine even for the elderly seemed pretty limited (for supply reasons) in Denmark and in Sweden. So even before this decision, it likely would have been the case that Pfizer’s vaccine would have been the one in general use at schools, even if just for administrative ease.

vanillabean Oct 10, 2021 9:42 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 33632172)
The use of Moderna’s vaccine even for the elderly seemed pretty limited (for supply reasons) in Denmark and in Sweden. So even before this decision, it likely would have been the case that Pfizer’s vaccine would have been the one in general use at schools, even if just for administrative ease.

I wonder whether it was Moderna not handing over more to Denmark or Denmark not wanting to appear shamelessly greedy. Or maybe Denmark simply bet on the wrong horse.


Moderna, whose coronavirus vaccine appears to be the world’s best defense against Covid-19, has been supplying its shots almost exclusively to wealthy nations, keeping poorer countries waiting and earning billions in profit.
Moderna, Racing for Profits, Keeps Covid Vaccine Out of Reach of Poor
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/09/b...d-vaccine.html


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