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Originally Posted by vanillabean
(Post 33592457)
Across the Danish news on television and in the newspapers, I have for days seen nothing about Covid. I finally noticed the following article which praises the Danish approach and points to Vietnam’s shutdown and low vaccination rate. The article naturally doesn’t mention that while restrictions have been lifted within Denmark, it’s not so entering the country which requires being vaccinated. There is also no mention of breakthrough cases, positivity rate and the relatively many infected among those 10-39 years of age. A second web page illustrates this better.
https://www.berlingske.dk/videnskab/...-kigger-de-paa https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/dagen...lagte-og-doede I am amazed at the number of sub-7 year old kids in Copenhagen and Skane who are coughing up a lung like crazy while on the way to daycares and elementary schools in the mornings this week. I guess a lot of people have stopped caring about getting tested but also don't seem to be as considerate about what spreading infections at schools can do to others. This is a return to pre-pandemic patterns in the region. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 33592699)
I did notice that Denmark seems intent to drum up a flu vaccine campaign for 2-6 year old children as part and parcel of keeping things open for more at a time when Covid-19 is anything but gone and could be a double vector of pressure upon school and work life. And let's not forget about the healthcare system too. :eek:
I am amazed at the number of sub-7 year old kids in Copenhagen and Skane who are coughing up a lung like crazy while on the way to daycares and elementary schools in the mornings this week. I guess a lot of people have stopped caring about getting tested but also don't seem to be as considerate about what spreading infections at schools can do to others. This is a return to pre-pandemic patterns in the region. For your information; the guidance from the authorities is updated as per 10th September. From 10th September, in order to minimise infection in schools and daycare facilities, and with the aim of allowing children to continue going to school, children who are close contacts, and who are not vaccinated or been infected with Covid 19 within the last 12 months, can be exempt from the requirements for self-isolation. Instead, children who are close contacts should take a Covid test as soon as possible. This test can be a quick test or a PCR test. The recommendations are to then to only return to school, after a negative result to this first test. Thereafter, children should take a PCR test on day 4 and 6 after the last contact with the infected person. As long as the first test proves negative and the child does not show any symptoms of Covid 19, he/she may come into school whilst awaiting the taking of tests and whilst awaiting the results of the tests. Parents who do not wish to follow the test procedure recommended by the authorities, are recommended to keep the child at home and self-isolate for 7 days. Learners who are vaccinated or have previously been infected with Covid-19 within the last 12 months and are close contacts, can also be exempt from isolation. The recommendations for these children are to be tested on day 4 and 6 after the last contact with an infected person. As always, we ask any children with any symptoms to stay away from school. children who are close contacts, and who are not vaccinated or been infected with Covid 19 within the last 12 months, can be exempt from the requirements for self-isolation. I'm waiting for UM to lift travel advisory so I can travel again. Norway is doing it and so is Sweden. UD häver global reseavrådan Från och med den 1 oktober häver Utrikesdepartementet sin pandemirelaterade reseavrådan till alla länder . – Reseavrådan för alla världens länder var en extraordinär åtgärd i en svår och oförutsägbar tid. Ambitionen har hela tiden varit att lyfta avrådan så fort som möjligt och vi bedömer att vi nått den tidpunkten nu. Det är dock viktigt att komma ihåg att pandemin långt ifrån är över vilket fortfarande påverkar resandet, säger utrikesminister Ann Linde i ett pressmeddelande. UD motiverar beslutet att lyfta reseavrådan med att pandemisituationen förbättrats globalt och många länder lyft sina restriktioner. Sverige har en hög vaccinationsgrad och resenärer och reseaktörer har anpassat sig till den nya situationen, står att läsa i pressmeddelandet. – Resenärer har fortsatt ett stort ansvar att själva ta reda på vad som gäller på resmålet och att följa de regler och rekommendationer som finns, säger utrikesminister Ann Linde. Även om det inte längre finns en bred avrådan med anledning av pandemin, finns i många länder fortfarande restriktioner som kan påverka en resa såsom krav på munskydd, uppvisande av negativa PCR-tester eller vaccinationsintyg. |
And if the children do or don't get tested, the daycares/preschools/schools may not even ever know if the kids were in fact tested with a proper sample collected by a trained technician?
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 33593472)
And if the children do or don't get tested, the daycares/preschools/schools may not even ever know if the kids were in fact tested with a proper sample collected by a trained technician?
If anyone is tested, they would be tested in one of the appointed test centres (since it's free) so it's not just a random dude out of nowhere. |
Originally Posted by nacho
(Post 33595853)
If anyone is tested, they would be tested in one of the appointed test centres (since it's free) so it's not just a random dude out of nowhere.
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Originally Posted by nacho
(Post 33595853)
In my kid's high school in Copenhagen, everyone has to show a negative test result before they start their first lessons just before they got vaccinated, so my kid had to do a test just before class and got a negative response before stepping into the school ground. They had to do it every 72h (twice a week). In the school my other children go to, there's no test requirement even though they are offering it on-site once a week.
If anyone is tested, they would be tested in one of the appointed test centres (since it's free) so it's not just a random dude out of nowhere. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 33596191)
Seems like Denmark has its act together at least a bit more in this way. The drive-up free Swedish testing being used to test some school children is quite the joke: family pulls up and given a kit to self-administer the swabbing and/or to administer the swabbing of their own children, and it’s all done out of sight of any proctor; and then the “sample” is handed back to the people handing out the self-administered testing kits.
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I don't think they want to test them in the first place. The position of the government and public health agency on these "solutions" is very clear.
It is absurd to test healthy people and even more absurd to use several days old tests as some way of infection control. |
Originally Posted by the810
(Post 33598985)
I don't think they want to test them in the first place. The position of the government and public health agency on these "solutions" is very clear.
It is absurd to test healthy people and even more absurd to use several days old tests as some way of infection control. Sweden's approach to testing of "healthy" people -- not exactly sure what "healthy people" means, especially given the context of what goes on with Covid-19 and how it spreads -- actually remains even more absurd than what has gone on with testing in Denmark with regard to school attendance. But let's see if Denmark plays catch-up with a Swedish-like surge in absurd discrimination as has happened with "symptomatic" school children in Sweden during this pandemic. For a benchmark, they should try to compare what happened to (in-person) school absence rates for those with one or two non-European-born parents vs those with two domestic-born parents. |
Rapid test centers closing.
It looks like once again I got out just in time! “København. 9. oktober skal alle de lyntestcentre, som private udbydere står for, være lukket.” Lyntestcentre lukker - men skal kunne åbne igen med 14 dages varsel https://www.berlingske.dk/danmark/ly...4-dages-varsel |
Originally Posted by vanillabean
(Post 33614830)
Rapid test centers closing.
It looks like once again I got out just in time! “København. 9. oktober skal alle de lyntestcentre, som private udbydere står for, være lukket.” Lyntestcentre lukker - men skal kunne åbne igen med 14 dages varsel https://www.berlingske.dk/danmark/ly...4-dages-varsel |
If you are curious about how the CPH airport is handling mask reinforcement, it appears from my recently departed flight from there that it’s somewhat minimal. The checkin counter area was particularly interesting to me.
The airline staff may well say it’s not their job. Aviator, the contractor for some airlines to attend to various passenger services on the floor and by the flights, isn’t effective either; someone without a mask walked up and asked a question, and at no time was he told to put on a mask. It was not until I approached this Aviator group af three that one of them reminded the passenger, after one had first informed me it would be impolite to remind him before answering his question while another said they didn’t have the authority to ask for documentation if he claimed to be exempt. In short, the passenger still didn’t put on a mask. No Covid staff person was around at any time, and it wasn’t until a group of two airport security staff with full authority and intent approached the passenger that he felt compelled to follow policy. During all of this, no staff kept a bag of masks and as such could offer it to the passenger, so he supposedly went to purchase one. I wonder what happened at the gate. |
Originally Posted by vanillabean
(Post 33623495)
The airline staff may well say it’s not their job. Aviator, the contractor for some airlines to attend to various passenger services on the floor and by the flights, isn’t effective either; someone without a mask walked up and asked a question, and at no time was he told to put on a mask.
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Funny how that video is right above the line “Covid-19 guide”. :D
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Tourism in Denmark
What's tourism like in Denmark these days? Pleasant? Cafes/restaurants/bars open?
Not sure if this is the appropriate thread to ask this in, but this seems to be the only active Covid-era thread on Denmark. :) |
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