National vs Hertz vs Avis recent comparison
#16
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: CO
Programs: UA OG-1K, Marriott Plat, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,360
I've been HERTZ PC for years and our company toyed with Avis and then went with National. I was National almost all last year with 24 credits and four free days. I use points for family vacations and we need minivans. I don't know how it all worked out, but with Hertz, I always had enough points for the minivan. Now, going with National, I'm pretty screwed over. Not nearly enough for a week and I'd have to take what they have, versus with Hertz points I can get the car that I want.
My usage profile is week long trips, usually. At least 3-4 days. That seems to favor Hertz points over Nationals system.
Also, if you are not vehicle limited for your free days, that would favor National.
Hertz points dont' seem to expire, or at least I use them fast enough that I don't lose them. Free days in National seem to have a pretty short shelf life.
Hertz website seems to give you more options on using free stuff- and that is hard for me to say since I didn't think it was good until I tried the others.
1-2-free keeps bugging me to sign up, I sign up- and then it keeps bugging me to sign up. I don't seem to see any benefit from it. I have 24 credits and 4 free days.
Avis seems to be the worst. I did most of a year with them 15-20 rentals and for the life of me I can't find any benefits from it.
Rental cars are a low differentiation travel aspect for me. You get off the plane, you get in a car and drive away. I prefer reserving a certain type of car so that when I land in CVG in the middle of a snow storm, I have more options than what color of Camaro I want off the National lot.
My usage profile is week long trips, usually. At least 3-4 days. That seems to favor Hertz points over Nationals system.
Also, if you are not vehicle limited for your free days, that would favor National.
Hertz points dont' seem to expire, or at least I use them fast enough that I don't lose them. Free days in National seem to have a pretty short shelf life.
Hertz website seems to give you more options on using free stuff- and that is hard for me to say since I didn't think it was good until I tried the others.
1-2-free keeps bugging me to sign up, I sign up- and then it keeps bugging me to sign up. I don't seem to see any benefit from it. I have 24 credits and 4 free days.
Avis seems to be the worst. I did most of a year with them 15-20 rentals and for the life of me I can't find any benefits from it.
Rental cars are a low differentiation travel aspect for me. You get off the plane, you get in a car and drive away. I prefer reserving a certain type of car so that when I land in CVG in the middle of a snow storm, I have more options than what color of Camaro I want off the National lot.
#17
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: BOS
Programs: Marriott LTG, HHonors Diamond, Nat'l Exec
Posts: 3,581
Had to contact National because my rewards preference (Enterprise) did not yield Enterprise points. Not only did they refuse to help, the CS rep (and his manager) constantly talked over me to give information that didn't even apply to the situation. Unsurprisingly Enterprise was not able to fix it either. Must be the corporate culture over there at the parent company. I use Avis almost exclusively now.
#18
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Bali, Indonesia
Programs: AA, DL, AK, UN, CN
Posts: 967
Does anyone publish "point values" for Hertz/National/Avis like FrequentMiler has for Hotel and Airlines? Seems easy enough to figure out.
I just got 7 National points for my 30 day rental. Takes 5 credits to get a free day so lets call that 1.4 days. The rental cost about $1000 here in Puerto Rico for the month w the corporate rate, with $750 of that the actual rental price not tax. Considering a daily rate is about $40 (just my gut feeling for an average rental price after discounts, not including tax), then my 1.4 days are worth $56. 56/750=.0746% return. That seems pretty reasonable, especially tacking on the 3-4.5% I'm getting from my 3X rewards cards. That would also imply National credits are worth about $8 each. Of course getting a last minute or one way rental may boost up the value of credit substantially.
Can anyone pull together a similar analysis for Avis or Hertz?
I just got 7 National points for my 30 day rental. Takes 5 credits to get a free day so lets call that 1.4 days. The rental cost about $1000 here in Puerto Rico for the month w the corporate rate, with $750 of that the actual rental price not tax. Considering a daily rate is about $40 (just my gut feeling for an average rental price after discounts, not including tax), then my 1.4 days are worth $56. 56/750=.0746% return. That seems pretty reasonable, especially tacking on the 3-4.5% I'm getting from my 3X rewards cards. That would also imply National credits are worth about $8 each. Of course getting a last minute or one way rental may boost up the value of credit substantially.
Can anyone pull together a similar analysis for Avis or Hertz?
#19
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 777
Only problem (if you can call it that) is that since National tends to promote from within the good managers often aren't in place long. They either move up or are rotated out to another location.