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lecter Aug 12, 2011 1:26 am

I think non-recognized countries are probably the best best...places like South Ossetia, the previously mentioned Transnistria and Abkhazia or the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic are not extremely far from major airports but usually involve customs and passport stamps so are in no way as easy to get to as San Marino, The Vatican, etc.

Here's another fun question: which alliance airline has the most destinations in non-recognized countries? Turkish Airlines would be my candidate, with flights to Kosovo and Northern Cyprus :)

edit: Turkish Airlines would also be my choice for the alliance airline biggest list of "interesting" destinations, with 4(!) cities in Iraq covered, as well as Kabul...good on them for helping those communities recover!

rmb.flk Aug 12, 2011 8:25 am


Originally Posted by wildway (Post 16885928)
Not exactly a country, but I don't believe any of the south Atlantic UK territories can be reached by miles... St. Helena, Ascnesion, and Tristan da Cunha. (If anybody figures out a way, please post!)

Techically, St Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha are a single British Overseas Territory.

Ascension is served by seats on the Airbridge (currently operated by Air Seychelles on behalf of the UK Ministry of Defence). No miles can be earned or redeemed on "Air Panini" (as it is nicknamed for the in-flight catering) and the flights are dry too.

Neither St Helena and Tristan da Cunha has an airport - although St Helena might get one in a few years time.

hauteboy Aug 18, 2011 3:07 pm

I believe you can use Qantas points to go to Dili on Airnorth.

CMK10 Aug 19, 2011 10:38 am

I still can't redeem miles to go to Val Verde. I know Western used to fly there. :D

rmb.flk Aug 19, 2011 10:53 am


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 16953981)
I still can't redeem miles to go to Val Verde. I know Western used to fly there. :D

I have the same problem getting to San Seriffe!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Serriffe

Gamecock Aug 19, 2011 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by jakpot (Post 16886831)
Both Manzini,Swaziland and Maseru,Lesotho are serviced by Star Alliance on SAA Airlink. Did both from JNB recently.

Cheers

^

I flew into Swaziland on SAA Airlink a couple of years ago.

beckoa Aug 19, 2011 10:55 pm

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Originally Posted by IggySD

Originally Posted by sosafan (Post 16889975)
I thought there were 192. Ok, South Sudan joined.
Anyway, I find it interesting that there are far fewer members of the U.N. than the 321 "countries" listed by the
Traveler's Century Club.
http://www.travelerscenturyclub.org/countries.html

What an odd list. According to their definition of a country Alaska is one. And there are seven of them in Antarctica. Who knew?

Well Alaska is basically a different country; after all our goods are all flown or driven over a foreign country. Thankfully we do have decent air service ;)

Kiwi Flyer Aug 21, 2011 4:57 am

The flight connectivity index shows there are few countries with limited air connections.

As noted by others, most of the "hard to reach" countries do actually have one or more FF options.

makin'miles Aug 21, 2011 8:17 am


Originally Posted by MNSWEEps (Post 16884366)
how about southern Sudan ?

Kenya Airways (Skyteam) fly from Nairobi.

kevincure Jun 16, 2012 4:05 pm

Update: Turkish now fly from Khartoum to mogadishu, so Somalia is now also reachable.

NYBanker Jun 17, 2012 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by AlohaDaveKennedy (Post 16890374)
TCC defines its "countries" a little more liberally. If only 192 counted too many of us would just blow past the number.

They were having a membership drive and expanded the list. ;)

tripice351 Jun 17, 2012 8:50 pm


Originally Posted by drbobguy (Post 16882624)
Having lived there for two years, including six months in provincial Russia, it amazes me that a country so large with a history of aircraft production and a large aerospace sector relies so heavily on trains for long-distance passenger transport. I understand the economics but it's to the point that even economically it doesn't make much sense.

This is why I wouldn't want to fly in Russia..

Russia dubbed world's most dangerous country for air travel

AlohaDaveKennedy Jun 18, 2012 9:58 am

Have registered a complaint with the TCC since Texas wuz so robbed! We were a country when Alaska was just an iceberg. There is still a Texas embassy in London!:D

http://www.texasembassy.com/

[QUOTE=beckoa;16957564Well Alaska is basically a different country; after all our goods are all flown or driven over a foreign country. Thankfully we do have decent air service ;)[/QUOTE]

partizanka Jun 18, 2012 12:36 pm

Can anyone recommend how to get to Uzbekistan (TAS) by using miles?

HansGolden Jun 18, 2012 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by partizanka (Post 18777388)
Can anyone recommend how to get to Uzbekistan (TAS) by using miles?

TAS has lots of options.

*A: TK IST, OZ ICN
OW: S7 OVB
ST: SU SVO ROV MRV AER, KE CAI (!), CZ PEK, KE ICN

Airline Route Mapper is your friend. Select TAS and then select the alliance. That's how I got the above info.

Alternatively (and perhaps more or less accurately), you can check out the Wikipedia page for that airport which lists the airlines that fly there. The Wiki page adds these two ST options:
SU LED KHV
OK PRG (seasonal)

Both of these methods suffer from not being 100% up to date. But they're a place to start.


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