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LongviewTX Aug 8, 2011 5:40 pm


Originally Posted by drbobguy (Post 16884155)
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A good example is Smolensk, Russia, which is a metro area of half a million people, and is famous because of the Polish plane crash there a year and a half ago. But as far as I know there are no commercial flights there, and the nearest big airport is Moscow, about 10 hours away by ground transit.

The nearest major airport should be Minsk, but considering much more options from Moscow this is certainly the choice of most Smolensk citizens (unless they have compelling non-monetary reasons to prefer Minsk but this is an off topic subject)

LongviewTX Aug 8, 2011 5:45 pm


Originally Posted by kevincure (Post 16884212)
I'm surprised how many countries you can get to only on major alliance miles.

That's why they are "major" - they work pretty hard to get all you money when you're travelling from point A to point B unless you're on some exotic commercially nonviable routes.

MNSWEEps Aug 8, 2011 5:53 pm

how about southern Sudan ?

srdshelly Aug 8, 2011 6:17 pm


Originally Posted by LongviewTX (Post 16882155)
Your question is interesting from theoretical but not practical perspective - for example there are many WORTH SEEING places in Russia that are much further from any airport you can reach with miles than any place in the countries you listed as unreachable. Yet Russia didn't make your list because of an easy- reachable Moscow.

But anyway, following your definition I think (didn't confirm in wikipedia though) at least Vatican is missing.

I haven't flown it yet, but S7 is part of the Oneworld alliance and flies to lots of places in Russia, including, I think, most of the places a tourist is likely to go the first couple of times in the country. Since Vatican City is entirely within Rome, it is as easy to visit with miles as Rome is. Andorra is indeed a bit of a drive from Barcelona, but not hard to visit from there.

pawtim Aug 8, 2011 6:24 pm


Originally Posted by kevincure (Post 16881233)
Reachable with a major alliance but not with US miles for political reasons: Iran, Cuba, N. Korea

Not quite true -- I've used Delta miles to book an award redemption from the US to Iran on Air France. I'm sure one could also redeem for trips on BA, Al Italia, or a couple others.

Supersonic Swinger Aug 8, 2011 7:55 pm


Originally Posted by burmaflyer (Post 16882214)
And there's probably a few more places in the South Pacific (Tonga, Samoa, Vanuatu) that would be hard to reach on miles?

You can get to all of these on Air New Zealand (*A), Air Pacific (OW if you use QF codeshares) and Virgin Australia. You can also get to Vanuatu on Air Caledonie using Flying Blue miles.

SirJman Aug 8, 2011 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by kevincure (Post 16884212)
And indeed, many places within countries are tough to reach. I don't think there is any way to the huge Canadian territory of Nunavut on miles, for instance.


You can on Canadian North and First Air with Aeroplan miles.

wildway Aug 8, 2011 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by SirJman (Post 16885031)
You can on Canadian North and First Air with Aeroplan miles.

Yep, and lots of options to Nunavut using Continental miles. I should say availability, rather than options. Availability is amazingly decent.

bocastephen Aug 8, 2011 10:54 pm

Bhutan should be on everyone's list to visit - but with one government-owned airline flying in and out of the capital, you can't use miles to get there...but you can get to BKK or KTM using miles, and connect onwards to Bhutan from there.

wildway Aug 8, 2011 11:55 pm

Not exactly a country, but I don't believe any of the south Atlantic UK territories can be reached by miles... St. Helena, Ascnesion, and Tristan da Cunha. (If anybody figures out a way, please post!)

MightyTravels Aug 9, 2011 12:58 am

What about Antartica and Greenland? Can you go there with miles?

Carolinian Aug 9, 2011 2:22 am

I would add what was until a few years ago, Europe's last feudal state, the channel island of Sark, ruled by a nobleman known as the Seigneur, who appointed his legislative body, the Chief Pleas, until he allowed it to be elected recently. Sark has no airport and must be reached by boat from Guernsey, from whence it makes a great day trip. The Seigneur has nominal allegiance to the British crown but the UK parliament has no authority there. Sark has no income tax and is not a member of the EU.

Also, you could add the non-recognized statelets like Transnistria and Abhazia.

belfordrocks Aug 9, 2011 5:17 am

Tuvalu, Nauru, Kiribati?

davidcito Aug 9, 2011 5:47 am

What about Swaziland & Lesotho? West Sahara (you may dispute if it is a stand-alone country) or maybe the Central African Republic?

jakpot Aug 9, 2011 6:06 am


Originally Posted by davidcito (Post 16886774)
What about Swaziland & Lesotho?

Both Manzini,Swaziland and Maseru,Lesotho are serviced by Star Alliance on SAA Airlink. Did both from JNB recently.

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