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sdsearch Jan 9, 2016 4:23 am


Originally Posted by kwloo (Post 25985511)
Thought I should mention I managed to redeem a Star Alliance redemption ticket through Singapore Airlines Krisflyer from Sao Paulo to Havana via Panama City.

What's your citizenship?

I didn't say that flights (with miles) to Cuba didn't exist from anywhere, I just said they don't exist from the US yet.

I didn't say you couldn't book such a flight, I said US Citizens can't travel to Cuba legally yet if their travel doesn't fall into particular categories. Obviously some people's travel might fall into those categories, so there are ways to book, but booking doesn't guarantee arrival and departure. And citizens of other countries may not have the same restrictions.

Just as another simpler example: You can book a flight with miles on lots of airlines to Argentina, but if you don't pay the Reciprocity Fee before you board, you can be denied boarding (because you will be denied entry into Argentina). Similar things can happen with countries that require visas in advance, you don't have the visa on you, you may not be able to board, or if you do board, you may be turned back at entry into the country.

So just because you book a flight to country is not sufficient to being able to actually enter it and then return home without problems.

mahasamatman Jan 9, 2016 11:09 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 25402747)
You can use DL miles for VA flights.

VX miles can be used as well.

AlohaDaveKennedy Jan 19, 2016 6:48 am

Meh - this was a direct flight from Dulles you could have booked with United miles!

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/07/31...ight.diverted/


Originally Posted by wholelottamiles (Post 25345436)
Pleeeeaaase. Those flights from Miami are way overpriced and since they're charters we don't even earn miles. My guess is that you go through Panama, others have mentioned Avianca's program through Bogota.


Cruban Jan 23, 2016 9:55 am

China Airlines now does YUL-HAV as a fifth freedom flight.

flyer05 Jan 23, 2016 11:43 am


Originally Posted by Cruban (Post 26067474)
China Airlines now does YUL-HAV as a fifth freedom flight.

Air China, you mean.

Smiley90 Jan 25, 2016 12:16 am


Originally Posted by John Z Wetmore (Post 25770112)
I checked on using miles to get to Bratislava, Slovakia, in October. It didn't look feasible on my programs. I took the train from Vienna - only an hour, 16 Euros round trip.

mhmmh Czech Airlines flies into BTS and they're a skyteam member, so it SHOULD be bookable - but Delta gives me nothing.

TMM1982 Jan 25, 2016 2:57 am

I believe the Pitcairn Islands are unreachable on miles.

sdsearch Jan 25, 2016 9:04 am


Originally Posted by TMM1982 (Post 26076170)
I believe the Pitcairn Islands are unreachable on miles.

Since it is unreachable by air:

http://wikitravel.org/en/Pitcairn_Islands
By plane
There is no airstrip in the islands, and it's out of range of land-launched helicopters, so flying is not an option. (The largest flat area on Pitcairn would offer a very short runway, and level Henderson Island is both a UNESCO-listed bird sanctuary and inconveniently located.) The nearest airport is on Mangareva in the Gambier Islands, 330 miles away. You can catch a charter vessel from Mangareva.
to be reachable by miles. some sort of sea vessel (or perhaps seaplane?) that can go there would have accept miles, right?

TMM1982 Jan 25, 2016 9:43 am


Originally Posted by sdsearch (Post 26077515)
Since it is unreachable by air:

http://wikitravel.org/en/Pitcairn_Islands
By plane
There is no airstrip in the islands, and it's out of range of land-launched helicopters, so flying is not an option. (The largest flat area on Pitcairn would offer a very short runway, and level Henderson Island is both a UNESCO-listed bird sanctuary and inconveniently located.) The nearest airport is on Mangareva in the Gambier Islands, 330 miles away. You can catch a charter vessel from Mangareva.
to be reachable by miles. some sort of sea vessel (or perhaps seaplane?) that can go there would have accept miles, right?

http://www.visitpitcairn.pn/cruise_s...ule/index.html

Maybe Barclay Arrival Points :D

sdsearch Jan 25, 2016 7:48 pm


Originally Posted by TMM1982 (Post 26077727)

Well, if you're going to count cruises, isn't at least of those cruise ship lines bookable with someone's miles, I think maybe UA'S? (In the way hotels and rental cars are bookable with miles.)

timster83 Feb 4, 2016 11:40 am


Originally Posted by sdsearch (Post 26080879)
Well, if you're going to count cruises, isn't at least of those cruise ship lines bookable with someone's miles, I think maybe UA'S? (In the way hotels and rental cars are bookable with miles.)

You can book Princess Cruises with Avios (10,000 Avios gives £50 off). Seems that would be an option..

puls Feb 4, 2016 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by Smiley90 (Post 26075728)
mhmmh Czech Airlines flies into BTS and they're a skyteam member, so it SHOULD be bookable - but Delta gives me nothing.

Not to mention that several airlines fly into KSC, also in Slovakia.

SanDiego1K Feb 4, 2016 1:15 pm

South African Air flies between JNB and Maun, Botswana. Yet the United website chokes when trying to book an award flight.

dogfan Feb 4, 2016 1:56 pm

any mileage program for flight to Cuba ??

wholelottamiles Feb 5, 2016 10:10 am


Originally Posted by dogfan (Post 26133895)
any mileage program for flight to Cuba ??

I think you can use Aero Mexico from Cancun or Mexico City. Also you can fly from Colombia, Panama, Nicaragua.

Here are quotes from some articles - looks like Jetblue and American will be the first major players but all airlines will want in. They had better let us use our frequent flyer miles! I'm guessing that the flights will command a lot of miles because the charters are still expensive and Cuba charges landing rights, something like $130 per passenger.

-- info from mid January

It will be a few more weeks before the the official agreement is released. Once that happens, the U.S. Department of Transportation will tell airlines how they can apply for the limited number of routes to Cuba. The agreement will allow for up to 20 flights per day to Havana and 10 flights per day to nine other airports in Cuba.

Once they are approved in the U.S., carriers will still have to apply with Cuba’s aviation department. No one is quite certain how long this part of the process will take.

American Airlines, which uses Miami International Airport as its main hub for service to the Caribbean and Latin America, is in the best position of any airline to take advantage of Cuba's opening. AA has been working with charter companies who fly to Cuba for years. Last year, it leased its planes to several charter firms and, through them, operated 1,200 flights to Cuba.

Though it does not come anywhere close to American’s numbers, JetBlue has a similar arrangement with charter companies. It flies from both New York and Florida to Cuba. These already-established connections could be useful when it comes time to bid for routes and to apply for approval from Cuban authorities.


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