Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
Last edit by: Pat89339
Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Jan 20, 2017, 7:50 pm
#7623
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,307
I asked a few days ago whether checking luggage was sufficient interaction with an airline to draw their attention to your unusual ticket price but never got any response so trying again. Can anyone tell of their experiences flying their "X" flight and main flights and checked in luggage?
My other doubt before pulling the trigger is I wish to purchase two 1X flights which together make a round trip. They would be purchased seperately to each provide a 1X for two different main trips. Will this give a higher chance of problems arising?
It's my first find and I'm nervous, so looking for some (hopefully positive) advice to calm my nerves.
My other doubt before pulling the trigger is I wish to purchase two 1X flights which together make a round trip. They would be purchased seperately to each provide a 1X for two different main trips. Will this give a higher chance of problems arising?
It's my first find and I'm nervous, so looking for some (hopefully positive) advice to calm my nerves.
Jan 20, 2017, 9:33 pm
#7624
Moderator: Budget Travel forum & Credit Card Programs, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: YYJ/YVR and back on Van Isle ....... for now
Programs: UA lifetime MM / *A Gold
Posts: 14,429
I asked a few days ago whether checking luggage was sufficient interaction with an airline to draw their attention to your unusual ticket price but never got any response so trying again. Can anyone tell of their experiences flying their "X" flight and main flights and checked in luggage?
It was years ago when flying to meetings was part of the job (those were some perks to attend meetings @:-) ) when a concierge told me "a savvy traveler does not check bags."
Not sure if truer words have been spoken @:-) ^
Over 20 years ago, and except the great job that required carrying screwdrivers and such, I have not checked one single bag since
Jan 21, 2017, 4:10 am
#7625
Join Date: Feb 2014
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, AS MVP
Posts: 990
I'm a carryon only ALWAYS (except when I had to carry tools as part of my job), but consensus has been do NOT check bags. With FD, just one more chance for someone to see the ticket
It was years ago when flying to meetings was part of the job (those were some perks to attend meetings @:-) ) when a concierge told me "a savvy traveler does not check bags."
Not sure if truer words have been spoken @:-) ^
Over 20 years ago, and except the great job that required carrying screwdrivers and such, I have not checked one single bag since
It was years ago when flying to meetings was part of the job (those were some perks to attend meetings @:-) ) when a concierge told me "a savvy traveler does not check bags."
Not sure if truer words have been spoken @:-) ^
Over 20 years ago, and except the great job that required carrying screwdrivers and such, I have not checked one single bag since
I really doubt that check in agents can see the price of your ticket..
Last edited by Granite64; Jan 21, 2017 at 5:01 am
Jan 21, 2017, 8:50 am
#7628
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ARN
Programs: Bit of this, bit of that
Posts: 454
Jan 21, 2017, 9:07 am
#7629
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: AMS
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 30
what's up with these rules, it states end-on-end not permitted.
BUT few lines later it states that end-on-end is permitted?
so is fd possible for this fare?
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH EK
FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -FDK1/-SDK1/-PDK1/-RDK1/-
FSE1/-SSE1/-PSE1/-RSE1/-FNO1/-SNO1/-PNO1/-RNO1/-FFI1/-
SFI1/-PFI1/-RFI1 TYPE FARES WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC
TARIFF.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -FLT1/-SLT1/-PLT1/-RLT1/-
FLV1/-SLV1/-PLV1/-RLV1/-FEE1/-SEE1/-PEE1/-REE1/-FIS1/-
SIS1/-PIS1/-RIS1 TYPE FARES WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC
TARIFF.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER EK
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO AREA 1
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
BUT few lines later it states that end-on-end is permitted?
so is fd possible for this fare?
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH EK
FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -FDK1/-SDK1/-PDK1/-RDK1/-
FSE1/-SSE1/-PSE1/-RSE1/-FNO1/-SNO1/-PNO1/-RNO1/-FFI1/-
SFI1/-PFI1/-RFI1 TYPE FARES WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC
TARIFF.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -FLT1/-SLT1/-PLT1/-RLT1/-
FLV1/-SLV1/-PLV1/-RLV1/-FEE1/-SEE1/-PEE1/-REE1/-FIS1/-
SIS1/-PIS1/-RIS1 TYPE FARES WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC
TARIFF.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER EK
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO AREA 1
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
Jan 21, 2017, 9:29 am
#7630
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Da World (GOT usually)
Programs: Oneworld, Hilton, IHG
Posts: 409
Choose another username, lay low, read what you post and try again.
what's up with these rules, it states end-on-end not permitted.
BUT few lines later it states that end-on-end is permitted?
so is fd possible for this fare?
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH EK
FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -FDK1/-SDK1/-PDK1/-RDK1/-
FSE1/-SSE1/-PSE1/-RSE1/-FNO1/-SNO1/-PNO1/-RNO1/-FFI1/-
SFI1/-PFI1/-RFI1 TYPE FARES WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC
TARIFF.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -FLT1/-SLT1/-PLT1/-RLT1/-
FLV1/-SLV1/-PLV1/-RLV1/-FEE1/-SEE1/-PEE1/-REE1/-FIS1/-
SIS1/-PIS1/-RIS1 TYPE FARES WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC
TARIFF.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER EK
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO AREA 1
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
BUT few lines later it states that end-on-end is permitted?
so is fd possible for this fare?
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH EK
FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -FDK1/-SDK1/-PDK1/-RDK1/-
FSE1/-SSE1/-PSE1/-RSE1/-FNO1/-SNO1/-PNO1/-RNO1/-FFI1/-
SFI1/-PFI1/-RFI1 TYPE FARES WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC
TARIFF.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -FLT1/-SLT1/-PLT1/-RLT1/-
FLV1/-SLV1/-PLV1/-RLV1/-FEE1/-SEE1/-PEE1/-REE1/-FIS1/-
SIS1/-PIS1/-RIS1 TYPE FARES WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC
TARIFF.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER EK
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO AREA 1
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
Jan 21, 2017, 10:50 am
#7631
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 11
Hi every one i'm new to the community
found a 3X from C1 to C3 already
but im looking to find one from C2 to C3 RT, can someone give me an hint where to look for ?
apparently there is some info in the rules but im note able to understand them propelly because every single try for a 3x or open jaw end up with nothing. maybe it's my candidat ?Do i need Addon On end of end and side permited to make it right candidat ?
thanks in advance
found a 3X from C1 to C3 already
but im looking to find one from C2 to C3 RT, can someone give me an hint where to look for ?
apparently there is some info in the rules but im note able to understand them propelly because every single try for a 3x or open jaw end up with nothing. maybe it's my candidat ?Do i need Addon On end of end and side permited to make it right candidat ?
thanks in advance
Jan 21, 2017, 1:17 pm
#7633
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: PAR
Programs: QR Plat, Accor Plat
Posts: 1,090
fly_error strange rules for me too, but you can get a 100% dump with 1x
Fly from couscous to laksa in biz for 411 EUR rt ai (ITAble) with a quite far away 1x, and around 500 or 600 EUR with a more easy to fly 1x
edited : not from Egypt
Fly from couscous to laksa in biz for 411 EUR rt ai (ITAble) with a quite far away 1x, and around 500 or 600 EUR with a more easy to fly 1x
edited : not from Egypt
Last edited by Matt4; Jan 22, 2017 at 5:32 am
Jan 21, 2017, 2:26 pm
#7634
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 6
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to recode something from your posts. I've been searching for sth for about a week, but I found only some useless not so high dumps (the biggest was about 150$ somewhere over the Pacific Ocean).
There's pretty low BF on flights from cheese/banks city to the best airport in the world. I read all the rules, it seems to be dumpable. But I tried to use 1x, 2x, 3x in every part of the world... and it doesn't work.
The low BF I mentioned above is for nonstop flights, but there are also two other dumpable carriers on that route (with a little higher BF and 1 layover).
What am I doing wrong that it doesn't work? I really tried hundreds of combinations.
I'd be really greatful for a hint. Cheers!
PS: maybe on priv, if you don't want to write here.
I'm trying to recode something from your posts. I've been searching for sth for about a week, but I found only some useless not so high dumps (the biggest was about 150$ somewhere over the Pacific Ocean).
There's pretty low BF on flights from cheese/banks city to the best airport in the world. I read all the rules, it seems to be dumpable. But I tried to use 1x, 2x, 3x in every part of the world... and it doesn't work.
The low BF I mentioned above is for nonstop flights, but there are also two other dumpable carriers on that route (with a little higher BF and 1 layover).
What am I doing wrong that it doesn't work? I really tried hundreds of combinations.
I'd be really greatful for a hint. Cheers!
PS: maybe on priv, if you don't want to write here.
Last edited by SirMoof; Jan 21, 2017 at 3:37 pm
Jan 21, 2017, 3:29 pm
#7635
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 3
I’ve been working on C2-C3se for a while now. Best price so far is 350 return still including 250+ fat, but probably not negotiable (?). Can anyone point me in the right direction with airlines and connections, that are worth looking into?