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Old Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
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Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!



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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.

This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.

Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.

We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).

If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.

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Old Jan 22, 2015, 2:11 am
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Originally Posted by Mask
Any hint on the OTA?
If you try a couple of the famous you will find it.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 2:58 am
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Originally Posted by Mask
Not ITA'ble, right? Any hint on the OTA?
Thanks.
Right. I'm sure that you know this OTA
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 7:02 am
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Some low fare has been reported JNB-HKG $342, may be error or self dump, check that out guys.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by Calgary88
Some low fare has been reported JNB-HKG $342, may be error or self dump, check that out guys.

Wasn't that discussed at 165ish?
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by Mask
Not ITA'ble, right? Any hint on the OTA?
Thanks.
ITA'ble for 698$. Still looking for OTA, though.

Edit: OTA'ble for 808$. Slightly different strike.

Last edited by ritesa; Jan 22, 2015 at 8:39 am
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 8:36 am
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Anyone been successful in dumping the UA 2 for 1 ticket to MXP from NYC?
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 9:36 am
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Is the Germany-China business fare still available?

Looks like the price has increased by several hundred.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by amunra
Is the Germany-China business fare still available?

Looks like the price has increased by several hundred.
It is a fixed price special but availability can change. It is still available... Check KLM.com
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
happy to learn from you, fuyao. Could you please give a few specific examples on where I'm wrong, and maybe even say what's right?
I'd rather not post this out here in the public.
But if you want to learn more and understand how everything works, look into how ita is pricing it (which systems they use etc.) and understand how bookings are done in the different GDSs and just a small give-a-way, fare rules are there for the agents so they know what is allowed and what is not.
Its not like there is someone sitting there and coding by reading the fare rules. How systems price things has nothing to do with the fare rules, in other words, the weather doesn't follow the weather report, its the other way around...
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
It is a fixed price special but availability can change. It is still available... Check KLM.com
I still see availability ex- my county, even toward chinese Chicago, all flights with Le Blues. Only if I could finf how to trick it
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 10:37 am
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There should be a wiki for the codes! Sometimes it's really difficult to follow but I'm up for the challenges!
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
It is a fixed price special but availability can change. It is still available... Check KLM.com
Any clue on whether it is a 1x or 3x or both?
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by fuyao
I'd rather not post this out here in the public.
But if you want to learn more and understand how everything works, look into how ita is pricing it (which systems they use etc.) and understand how bookings are done in the different GDSs and just a small give-a-way, fare rules are there for the agents so they know what is allowed and what is not.
Its not like there is someone sitting there and coding by reading the fare rules. How systems price things has nothing to do with the fare rules, in other words, the weather doesn't follow the weather report, its the other way around...
Thank you
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 12:10 pm
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Originally Posted by fuyao
How systems price things has nothing to do with the fare rules, in other words, the weather doesn't follow the weather report, its the other way around...
That's very well said. ^^
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 2:01 pm
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Anyone been able to dump UA's 2/1 $400 NYC-MXP? Not looking for answer but whether possible. bf is $26 each way. Fare rules seem to allow it but cant find a workable 3x yet
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