[PREM FARE GONE] ST: AZ NBO-LAX OW 977 euro - fully flexible J class
May 20, 2019, 11:12 pm
#46
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Can you offer more information about why you think this? This doesn’t really make any sense. A travel agency issuing a ticket has no bearing on the terms and conditions of the issuing stock airlines. The record still exists in the airlines reservation system and is subject to the rules. Every airline in the world requires that you use coupons in order otherwise remaining coupons will be cancelled.
https://www.godsavethepoints.com/201...ging-no-show/?
May 20, 2019, 11:48 pm
#47
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Can you offer more information about why you think this? This doesn’t really make any sense. A travel agency issuing a ticket has no bearing on the terms and conditions of the issuing stock airlines. The record still exists in the airlines reservation system and is subject to the rules. Every airline in the world requires that you use coupons in order otherwise remaining coupons will be cancelled.
(Almost all airline single out Italy for the reason in the reply above)
May 21, 2019, 4:00 am
#48
Join Date: Jul 2015
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I find this fascinating .. The Italian High Court has ruled you may use your remaining coupons with a few caveats...
https://www.godsavethepoints.com/201...ging-no-show/?
May 21, 2019, 1:55 pm
#49
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 446
NBO to LAX in Sept for Mom
Trying to take my mother to Kenya as a surprise and trying to figure out best route back for ensuring most miles for a relatively direct route (too hard on her being on planes, even in biz class).
What is best carriers / route to maximize miles? I keep rereading above to figure out who does and does not give credit but I am still not sure.
Also, where to book helpful (go directly to airline?)
Thank you!
What is best carriers / route to maximize miles? I keep rereading above to figure out who does and does not give credit but I am still not sure.
Also, where to book helpful (go directly to airline?)
Thank you!
May 21, 2019, 2:00 pm
#50
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 446
Also, I have been trying to get to route through SFO back to LAX but having challenges... has anyone done that?
I see below, but just not skilled enough to figure out how to get one of these routings. I tried so many ways on ITA Matrix, google flights, an dpriceline.
43. NBO-PAR/AUH-ROM-AZ/AP-MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
44. NBO-ROM-AZ/AP-MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
45. NBO-PAR/AUH-ROM/MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
46. NBO-ROM/MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
47. NBO-PAR/AUH-MIL-AZ/AP-ROM-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
48. NBO-MIL-AZ/AP-ROM-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
I see below, but just not skilled enough to figure out how to get one of these routings. I tried so many ways on ITA Matrix, google flights, an dpriceline.
43. NBO-PAR/AUH-ROM-AZ/AP-MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
44. NBO-ROM-AZ/AP-MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
45. NBO-PAR/AUH-ROM/MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
46. NBO-ROM/MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
47. NBO-PAR/AUH-MIL-AZ/AP-ROM-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
48. NBO-MIL-AZ/AP-ROM-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
Last edited by thaitraveller; May 21, 2019 at 3:11 pm
May 21, 2019, 7:00 pm
#51
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Mind blown. Been reading up on this. Apparently this ruling in Italy is one of the only exceptions to the "must fly coupons in order" rule. Also, it seems it will only work with certain airlines. If you have DL or AF segments in your ticket, they mostly ignore it and risk the penalty.
May 21, 2019, 7:04 pm
#52
Join Date: Jan 2018
Programs: AF/KL Gold, DL Diamond, Hertz PC, Bonvoy Gold Elite; Hilton Gold
Posts: 997
Trying to take my mother to Kenya as a surprise and trying to figure out best route back for ensuring most miles for a relatively direct route (too hard on her being on planes, even in biz class).
What is best carriers / route to maximize miles? I keep rereading above to figure out who does and does not give credit but I am still not sure.
Also, where to book helpful (go directly to airline?)
Thank you!
What is best carriers / route to maximize miles? I keep rereading above to figure out who does and does not give credit but I am still not sure.
Also, where to book helpful (go directly to airline?)
Thank you!
Also, I have been trying to get to route through SFO back to LAX but having challenges... has anyone done that?
I see below, but just not skilled enough to figure out how to get one of these routings. I tried so many ways on ITA Matrix, google flights, an dpriceline.
43. NBO-PAR/AUH-ROM-AZ/AP-MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
44. NBO-ROM-AZ/AP-MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
45. NBO-PAR/AUH-ROM/MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
46. NBO-ROM/MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
47. NBO-PAR/AUH-MIL-AZ/AP-ROM-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
48. NBO-MIL-AZ/AP-ROM-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
I see below, but just not skilled enough to figure out how to get one of these routings. I tried so many ways on ITA Matrix, google flights, an dpriceline.
43. NBO-PAR/AUH-ROM-AZ/AP-MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
44. NBO-ROM-AZ/AP-MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
45. NBO-PAR/AUH-ROM/MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
46. NBO-ROM/MIL-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
47. NBO-PAR/AUH-MIL-AZ/AP-ROM-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
48. NBO-MIL-AZ/AP-ROM-NYC-DL/AZ-SFO-DL-LAX
Also, you mention you want to "take your mother TO Kenya". This fare is only valid for travel originating in Kenya. I have the same issue. I am originating in Buffalo (live in Toronto) so I bought 2 tickets. Outbound on Air France BUF-DTW-CDG-NBO for USD $2200. Then this deal NBO-FCO-LAX-JFK (+BUF separate ticket) for USD $1078. Its about the same price as just buying a YYZ-NBO-YYZ ticket round-trip, but that route doesn't include the full fare J class return so way less Delta Skymiles. The fare is most helpful for those exiting Kenya.
Last edited by Utskicat; May 21, 2019 at 7:10 pm
May 21, 2019, 7:46 pm
#53
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Mind blown. Been reading up on this. Apparently this ruling in Italy is one of the only exceptions to the "must fly coupons in order" rule. Also, it seems it will only work with certain airlines. If you have DL or AF segments in your ticket, they mostly ignore it and risk the penalty.
May 21, 2019, 7:48 pm
#54
formerly Guanran Wang
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: HKG, PEK, IAD/DCA, LON, BHX,
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Posts: 322
Mind blown. Been reading up on this. Apparently this ruling in Italy is one of the only exceptions to the "must fly coupons in order" rule. Also, it seems it will only work with certain airlines. If you have DL or AF segments in your ticket, they mostly ignore it and risk the penalty.
May 21, 2019, 7:49 pm
#55
Join Date: Jan 2018
Programs: AF/KL Gold, DL Diamond, Hertz PC, Bonvoy Gold Elite; Hilton Gold
Posts: 997
I am not questioning the rules, I agree they "should" be followed. But I've read that only a few airlines are "obeying" the ruling. Read the article posted above, it specifically references airlines that are not complying and opting for fines instead.
May 21, 2019, 7:51 pm
#56
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Then sit back and enjoy your easy Eu261 money haha
May 22, 2019, 7:44 am
#57
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 446
Thank you! Very nice of you.
Just need this for coming back NBO to SFO. We are using miles to go NBO to SFO.
Delta FF miles would be great (even if not so useful). On that note if there is a hack to use another program now for Delta for someone based iN USA that is helpful info.
So looking for NBO to SFO as final destination and had hoped maybe to get something NBO via SFO to LAX or NYC and get off in SFO if was international gateway.
No required places to stop.
Thanks.
Just need this for coming back NBO to SFO. We are using miles to go NBO to SFO.
Delta FF miles would be great (even if not so useful). On that note if there is a hack to use another program now for Delta for someone based iN USA that is helpful info.
So looking for NBO to SFO as final destination and had hoped maybe to get something NBO via SFO to LAX or NYC and get off in SFO if was international gateway.
No required places to stop.
Thanks.
May 22, 2019, 9:26 am
#58
Join Date: Jan 2018
Programs: AF/KL Gold, DL Diamond, Hertz PC, Bonvoy Gold Elite; Hilton Gold
Posts: 997
Thank you! Very nice of you.
Just need this for coming back NBO to SFO. We are using miles to go NBO to SFO.
Delta FF miles would be great (even if not so useful). On that note if there is a hack to use another program now for Delta for someone based iN USA that is helpful info.
So looking for NBO to SFO as final destination and had hoped maybe to get something NBO via SFO to LAX or NYC and get off in SFO if was international gateway.
No required places to stop.
Thanks.
Just need this for coming back NBO to SFO. We are using miles to go NBO to SFO.
Delta FF miles would be great (even if not so useful). On that note if there is a hack to use another program now for Delta for someone based iN USA that is helpful info.
So looking for NBO to SFO as final destination and had hoped maybe to get something NBO via SFO to LAX or NYC and get off in SFO if was international gateway.
No required places to stop.
Thanks.
You can find the NBO-FCO-LAX routing departing Wed and Sun directly on Alitalia’s website. It will earn 19330 MQMs and 19330 redeemable miles on Delta (assuming no Medallion status, more RDM miles with status).
I hope that helps. Let me know if you’ve anymore questions or have any issues finding it.
May 22, 2019, 6:29 pm
#59
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K
Posts: 135
Are you still able to find this fare in mid November per below? I'd love some help there, I'm going on safari in Botswana until Nov. 11 and this would be a most wonderful way to get home 
AZ is not publishing a fare NBO-SFO. The NBO-LAX fare does not allow “end on end” combinations, which basically just means you can’t add on another fare segment at the beginning or end of the ticket. So I would buy the ticket NBO-LAX and then give yourself a healthy layover in LAX and buy a separate LAX-SFO ticket. You didn’t mention dates but your options through most of the summer depart Nairobi on Wednesdays and Sundays with a few occasional Mondays (Note, the available Monday departures route Nairobi Geneva Rome, thus adding a stop in GVA). If you’re already collecting Delta Skymiles, then Delta is where you wanna put the miles. Your only date options for maximum mileage accrual are through the end of November. After that the NBO-FCO codeshare on Kenya Airways ends and your only routing is via though Doha on Eithad (NBO-AUH-FCO-LAX) which means you’re only earn miles on the final Rome to LAX segment.
You can find the NBO-FCO-LAX routing departing Wed and Sun directly on Alitalia’s website. It will earn 19330 MQMs and 19330 redeemable miles on Delta (assuming no Medallion status, more RDM miles with status).
I hope that helps. Let me know if you’ve anymore questions or have any issues finding it.
AZ is not publishing a fare NBO-SFO. The NBO-LAX fare does not allow “end on end” combinations, which basically just means you can’t add on another fare segment at the beginning or end of the ticket. So I would buy the ticket NBO-LAX and then give yourself a healthy layover in LAX and buy a separate LAX-SFO ticket. You didn’t mention dates but your options through most of the summer depart Nairobi on Wednesdays and Sundays with a few occasional Mondays (Note, the available Monday departures route Nairobi Geneva Rome, thus adding a stop in GVA). If you’re already collecting Delta Skymiles, then Delta is where you wanna put the miles. Your only date options for maximum mileage accrual are through the end of November. After that the NBO-FCO codeshare on Kenya Airways ends and your only routing is via though Doha on Eithad (NBO-AUH-FCO-LAX) which means you’re only earn miles on the final Rome to LAX segment.
You can find the NBO-FCO-LAX routing departing Wed and Sun directly on Alitalia’s website. It will earn 19330 MQMs and 19330 redeemable miles on Delta (assuming no Medallion status, more RDM miles with status).
I hope that helps. Let me know if you’ve anymore questions or have any issues finding it.
May 22, 2019, 6:33 pm
#60
Join Date: Jan 2018
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I don't mean to be snarky, but did you even look on Alitalia.com? I gave specific instructions how to find and book it and what dates to look. I can't actually do it for you. If you want help, give more information on where you are having problems finding it and how you are looking.