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Old Aug 30, 2018, 3:43 am
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Top tips for the "Dim Sum / Chicken adobo" fare:
  • At more than 5 weeks after most of us booked this fare it looks increasingly likely that the fare will stick. However prudence is still advisable and we should all avoid contacting the booking agent and if essential to contact try to deal with the airline direct.
  • Check that your original itenary is intact and ticketed as PAL revised their LHR flight schedule in early September and there appear to now only be 5 flights a week now rather than daily. Use TripCase to do this - see post #114 on how to do this (thanks to @MyFlights App). If you have incurred an involuntary change you can contact PAL and they will permit one change to amend your itenary. They appear to be flexible to shift flights to adjacent days, but if you try to push to be rerouted on another carrier to maintain the original itenary times you might find your flights are cancelled and you end up with a refund.
  • Online seat assignments are not possible on PAL when booked through a 3rd party, you have to call up, it is best to call PAL on 0808 164 9888 rather than the booking agent.
  • Whilst it looks like the fare is going to stick be aware that making other travel arrangements around this booking are at your own risk so consider making bookings that are refundable or covered by insurance if needed.
In hopes that this will go ahead, here's a wiki to see who's going and when.
Updated to post #253

November '18
Outbound
LHR-HKG : 09/11/18 : Carnaby
Inbound
HKG-LHR : 22/11/18 : Carnaby

December '18
Outbound
LHR-HKG : 29/12/18 : Wildwater
Inbound
None

January '19
Outbound
LHR-HKG : 10/01/19 : dsf
LHR-HKG : 12/01/19 : SFO1967
LHR-HKG : 12/01/19 : TravelQuinten
LHR-HKG : 17/01/19 : Kauppias
Inbound
HKG-LHR : 01/01/19 : Wildwater
HKG-LHR : 13/01/19 : dsf
HKG-LHR : 19/01/19 : SFO1967
HKG-LHR : 20/01/19 : Kauppias

February '19
Outbound
LHR-HKG : 05/02/19 : HKGEDI
LHR-HKG : 09/02/19 : MoonMan85
LHR-HKG : 14/02/19 : Fleric
LHR-HKG : 22/02/19 : skycruiserNL
Inbound
HKG-LHR : 02/02/19 : TravelQuinten
HKG-LHR : 12/02/19 : HKGEDI
HKG-LHR : 22/02/19 : MoonMan85
HKG-LHR : 26/02/19 : Fleric
HKG-LHR : 28/02/19 : skycruiserNL

March '19
Outbound
LHR-MNL : 01/03/19 : danfl44
LHR-HKG : 10/03/19 : flight345 +1
LHR-HKG : 14/03/19 : plunet +1
LHR-HKG : 14/03/19 : kevinflyaway
LHR-HKG : 18/03/19 : cowcow75
LHR-HKG : 21/03/19 : ams2174
LHR-HKG : 22/03/19 : jonase
LHR-MNL : 22/03/19 : Funky Spike
MNL-HKG :24/03/19 : Funky Spike
LHR-HKG : 24/03/19 : Poolek
LHR-HKG : 30/03/19 : Wilem
Inbound
MNL-LHR : 07/03/19 : danfl44
HKG-LHR : 18/03/19 : kevinflyaway
HKG-LHR : 24/03/19 : plunet +1
HKG-LHR : 24/03/19 : flight345 +1
HKG-LHR : 27/03/19 : ams2174
HKG-MNL : 27/03/19 : Funky Spike
MNL-LHR : 28/03/19 : Funky Spike
HKG-LHR : 28/03/19 : Poolek
HKG-LHR : 31/03/19 : jonase

April '19
Outbound
LHR-HKG : 10/04/19 : honzeek_cz
LHR-HKG : 10/04/19 : kjbrant +1
LHR-HKG : 11/04/19 : a_man_usia
LHR-HKG : 12/04/19 : usmark24
LHR-HKG : 12/04/19 : bittihuduga+1
LHR-HKG : 16/04/19 : stringymacca
LHR-HKG : 17/04/19 : estrangeiro8
LHR-HKG : 18/04/19 : Vgravity
LHR-HKG : 19/04/19 : strayersong
LHR-HKG : 20/04/19 : justatourist
LHR-HKG : 21/04/19 : gpetro1
LHR-HKG : 28/04/19 : coolblue21
Inbound
HKG-LHR : 02/04/19 : cowcow75
HKG-LHR : 14/04/19 : honzeek_cz
HKG-LHR : 14/04/19 : a_man_usia
HKG-LHR : 17/04/19 : kjbrant +1
HKG-LHR : 21/04/19 : usmark24
HKG-LHR : 22/04/19 : bittihuduga
HKG-LHR : 23/04/19 : stringymacca
HKG-LHR : 23/04/19 : Vgravity
HKG-LHR : 27/04/19 : justatourist
HKG-LHR : 27/04/19 : strayersong
HKG-LHR : 27/04/19 : estrangeiro8

May '19
Outbound
LHR-HKG : 02/05/19 : ackbrady +2
LHR-HKG : 04/05/19 : shamrock104
LHR-HKG : 14/05/19 : usmark24
LHR-HKG : 15/05/19 : afirm
LHR-HKG : 15/05/19 : p78
Return
HKG-LHR : 01/05/19 : gpetro1
HKG-LHR : 03/05/19 : coolblue21
HKG-LHR : 08/05/19 : shamrock104
HKG-LHR : 09/05/19 : ackbrady +2
HKG-LHR : 18/05/19 : afirm
HKG-LHR : 19/05/19 : p78
HKG-LHR : 23/05/19 : usmark24

June '18
Return
HKG-LHR : 29/06/19 : Wilem
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Old Aug 30, 2018, 2:32 pm
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Congrats on your ticket appearing.

Look upthread on how to see your e-ticket via TripCase.
Assuming you are not flying in the next couple of weeks, you should be on an A350 between London and Manilla

https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...ent-to-london/
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Old Aug 30, 2018, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by bananahead
I booked for JAN and received an email with ticket number clearly stating Business Class. The PNR does not work on the PR website though.

I'm not holding great hopes but you never know. I booked with my AMEX - if you have an AMEX I highly recommend using it to book as in previous experiences where fares haven't been honoured i've found AMEX exceptional at getting a swift refund. If you book DO NOT use a debit type credit card. Make sure you use an actual CREDIT card as you have further purchase rights (in the UK/europe).
Just curious, what is the benefits of a credit card...??...is there some legal reasons, or could I just be utterly shafted by going at something like this with a debit card instead of a credit one?
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Old Aug 30, 2018, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Knodde
Just curious, what is the benefits of a credit card...??...is there some legal reasons, or could I just be utterly shafted by going at something like this with a debit card instead of a credit one?
Basically under the terms of the UK Consumer Credit Act, a credit card company is jointly liable with the merchant for any purchase over £100. So if it all goes wrong and the merchant is giving you the runaround for a refund you can then just approach the credit card company and tell them you didn't receive the goods or services advertised and get the card company to refund you.

​​​​​Debit cards do not have the same protection, although card issuers can often help consumers with chargebacks there is no obligation in law to do so.
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Old Aug 30, 2018, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by mliii
Thanks for the advice! And really sorry if I broke the rules. It's my first time to get this kind of fare.

I'm not quite worried about the connecting flight as it's just a 4500 Avios flight by Cathay Dragon - just to secure a seat in advance.

About the seat selection, I have this trip next February and the Business cabin in both my return flight are not that empty - half full for both MNL-HKG sectors and 13/30 for MNL-LHR. I'm not sure if PAL is that popular but I believe there's already someone called and asked for a seat with this fare.

And just for discussion, PAL has sent me their confirmation email with fare details, shown as IT for the Fare (Fare Basis Z9ITPRGB). Does anyone know what's that supposed to mean?

You booked via an OTA?

How can PR send you the fare details by mail? They would only do that after a direct contact with them.
You are telling us you called PR by yourself?
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Old Aug 30, 2018, 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by skycruisernl
you booked via an ota?

How can pr send you the fare details by mail? They would only do that after a direct contact with them.
You are telling us you called pr by yourself?
Originally Posted by mliii
bought through trip.com and got seat assignments from pal uk call center without any questions. Not sure if any change will happen but i've already booked a connected flight back home!
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Old Aug 31, 2018, 2:56 am
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I can't update the Wiki myself yet, but my dates are:
01-03-'19 LHR-MNL
07-03-'19 MNL LHR
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Old Aug 31, 2018, 3:01 am
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Well done everyone who got on this, have a great trip
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Old Aug 31, 2018, 3:19 am
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For the wiki:
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May '19
Outbound
LHR-HKG : 15/05/19 : afirm

Return
HKG-LHR : 18/05/19 : afirm
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Old Aug 31, 2018, 3:20 am
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Has anyone got access to the GDS to look up the fare conditions on Z9ITPRGB ?

I note there is an Ultimate Seat Sale on their website for ex-LHR travel.
https://www.philippineairlines.com/e...teSeatSale-LHR



The fare conditions at the bottom of that page state (which might not be the same as Z9ITPRGB):

FARE CONDITIONS: Selling Period: August 20 - September 09, 2018. Travel Period: October 1, 2018 - May 15, 2019.

1. Seats are subject to availability. Seasonality and blackout dates apply (Black out Period: December 1 - 24, 2018)

2. Fares quoted are inclusive of government taxes, fees and surcharges. Taxes and charges are subject to change with or without prior notice by the authority.

3. Minimum and maximum stay:

London to the Philippines: Economy - 3D/1M; Premium Economy - 3D/3M; Business - 7D/3M

London to SEA, Australia, New Zealand: Economy - 3D/3M; Premium Economy - 3D/6M; Business - 7D/6M

4. Ticket is non-transferable.

5. Ticket is non-refundable for Economy. For Premium Economy, refund is subject to GBP80 for totally and partially used tickets. For Business, totally unused ticket is refundable for GBP200 and non-refundable for partially used.

6. Rebooking is GBP200 Economy tickets and free of charge for Premium Economy tickets. For Business, change fee is GBP125, subject to fare difference and applicable penalties.

7. No-show fee is GBP100.

8. Weekend surcharge is GBP25 for Economy and Premium Economy. GBP40 for Business for Th/Fr/Sa Outbound departure to PH.

9. For PH travel: No Child discount. Infant fare for infant without a seat under 2 years is 20% of adult fare. For beyond destinations travel: Child's fare is 75% of adult fare. Infant fare for infant without a seat under 2 years is 10% of adult fare.

10. 10% Mileage accrual for Economy and 125% for Business and Premium Economy.

11. Baggage Allowance - Fare is inclusive of 7-kg handcarried baggage. Free baggage allowance will vary per route.

12. Other travel conditions apply.
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Old Aug 31, 2018, 4:47 am
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Is this fare dead? When I check lastminute.com or lastminute.co.uk I am getting fares of £1717
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Old Aug 31, 2018, 5:00 am
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Originally Posted by IrishStephen
Is this fare dead? When I check lastminute.com or lastminute.co.uk I am getting fares of £1717
Yep, long since gone. Sorry!
Can @ryandc99 or another mod amend the title and move the thread somewhere where it won't clutter up the Premium fares forum? Maybe Other Asian carriers forum...
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Old Aug 31, 2018, 5:07 am
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Originally Posted by plunet
Yep, long since gone. Sorry!
Can @ryandc99 or another mod amend the title and move the thread somewhere where it won't clutter up the Premium fares forum? Maybe Other Asian carriers forum...
Thanks, I thought so. I hope all that booked have a great flight and they honour the booking.
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Old Aug 31, 2018, 5:08 am
  #148  
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: LHR
Programs: BA Silver, Aegan Gold, Hilton Diamond
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For the wiki:

May '19
Outbound
LHR-HKG : 15/05/19 : p78

Return
HKG-LHR : 19/05/19 : p78
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Old Aug 31, 2018, 5:27 am
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Location: Edinburgh, Hong Kong
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For the Wiki

Feb '19
Outbound
LHR-HKG : 05/02/19 : HKGEDI

Return
HKG-LHR : 12/02/19 : HKGEDI

£491.42

Last edited by HKGEDI; Sep 2, 2018 at 6:26 am
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Old Aug 31, 2018, 8:31 am
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for the wiki

Mar '19
Outbound
LHR-HKG : 10/03/19 : flight345

Return
HKG-LHR : 24/03/19 : flight345

2 pax £975
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