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Old Aug 22, 2013, 6:11 am
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KL Europe to Japan 268,28 € All-in R/T with a Big Twist

1X ( highly flyable and desirable ) from New York ( my home town ) to South America then on KLM from Copenhagen ( my other hometown) to Osaka, Japan and back to Copenhagen.

I can pay as little as 268,28 € All-in.

I have not explored if there are even more optimal dates. If so then price will be even lower.

With the same 1X and a DOJ KL:CPH-KIX DOJ BKK-GOT price is 283,15 €.
Alternative return: KL PEK-PRG - same price

I think this particular OTA has an exploitable "Blind Spot". Thanks to Sario for identifying the CPH-KIX Base Fare.

No way Abdon can figure this one out or improve the price.

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Old Aug 22, 2013, 6:16 am
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What is the direction of South America? Delta Airlines?
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 6:26 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
1X ( highly flyable) from New York ( my home town ) to South America then on KLM from Copenhagen ( my other hometown) to Osaka, Japan and and back to Copenhagen.

I can pay as little as 268,28 € All-in.

I have not explored if there are even more optimal dates. If so then price will be even lower.

With the same 1X and a DOJ KL:CPH-KIX DOJ BKK-GOT price is 283,15 €.

No way Abdon can figure this one out or improve the price.
ITAable?
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 8:07 am
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Has anyone been trying to dump SU on C2-C3?

I know it is not a very reliable airline, but it is not bad.
You can get the fat down to $0 without an OJ but with a special construction.

To sum up, SU is dumped 100%, so are EK on C2-C5 and TK on C2-C4.
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 8:36 am
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Any dumps possible on MH? Will keep working in the meanwhile on finding them.
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 8:38 am
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TK dumpable ex-C1?

is TK dumpable ex c1? specifically c1-c5 and c1-c3?


Originally Posted by abdon
Has anyone been trying to dump SU on C2-C3?

I know it is not a very reliable airline, but it is not bad.
You can get the fat down to $0 without an OJ but with a special construction.

To sum up, SU is dumped 100%, so are EK on C2-C5 and TK on C2-C4.
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by coolchai
is TK dumpable ex c1? specifically c1-c5 and c1-c3?
It always was.
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
1X ( highly flyable and desirable ) from New York ( my home town ) to South America then on KLM from Copenhagen ( my other hometown) to Osaka, Japan and back to Copenhagen.
I can pay as little as 268,28 € All-in.
Improved price 237,28 € All-in due to better travel date(s).

It can actually get massaged as low as 169.75 € but with a much less convenient 1X. And its got nothing to do with Molson.

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Old Aug 22, 2013, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
1X ( highly flyable and desirable ) from XXX to c4 then on KLM ecc.ecc.

I think this information is always to keep censored.
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by Neil791
and here come the posts from people who've been 'members' of this forum for multiple years and haven't contributed more than a handful of times talking about trial and error and being newbies. If you're looking for a needle in a haystack than I suppose once you find it you should celebrate; however if you're looking for the elephant in the room don't be surprised when you bump into it!

If you want to know the 'how' and the 'why' its all in the thread, but of course people in general are too lazy and don't want to read so they rely on trial and error as opposed to doing their homework and putting lessons to good use.
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by alanpigi
I think this information is always to keep censored.
Possibly a reaction to critique against the extreme secrecy that has evolved lately.

Anyway, thanks WWE and all the others who currently post info a little more accessible, thus encouraging others to start working

abdon, could you elaborate a little on your SU dump? Is yours a roe-not permitted as well? have considered your remarks on the special no-OJ construction. Have considered stopovers, but to no avail.
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by alanpigi
I think this information is always to keep censored.
Why ? KLM will never figure this out. And just in case they did , they would not correct it because it would cost them much more in lost connecting traffic.

Good news is that 1X works in reverse. Therefore for < 550.50 €

it is possible to go C1-C4 C4-C1 C2-C3 C3-C2 C2-C3 C3-C2
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
Why ? KLM will never figure this out. And just in case they did , they would not correct it because it would cost them much more in lost connecting traffic.

Never say never, they've changed their fare rules drastically last November...
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
DL ITALY to USA 190.85 £ All-in R/T.

Unfortunately it is on a low class Skypesos airline from America.

BA will still do London or Manchester to New York for 168.54 £ All-in R/T if you ask nicely.
Originally Posted by dawsando
Got the Dump but cant figure out the APD bit
Same here.

Any hints, however vague, (or PMs) much appreciated.
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Old Aug 22, 2013, 11:57 am
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Unhappy C1-C2 FD gone

I was playing around on the M yesterday and found some really nice dump from C1 to C2 on XXX but today it's gone. Should have booked without hesitation.

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