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Old Jan 15, 2012, 9:05 am
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If one wanted to learn to figure out the jargon, what page shall one start reading from this thread? 1100 pages is craziness.
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
Fare 1: Carrier XX AAA to BBB €35.81
Fare 2: Carrier YY AMS to DXB €29.00
Fare 3: Carrier YY DXB to AMS €29.00
Government Transportation Tax €11.28
Security Fee €1.18
The Netherlands Security Service Charge (CJ) €12.68
The Netherlands Noise Isolation Charge (VV) €2.00
The Netherlands Passenger Service Charge (RN) €14.89
Tax €25.50
Tax €11.86
United Arab Emirates Security and Safety Fee (TP) €1.07
United Arab Emirates Passenger Service Charge (AE) €15.96

Total per passenger €190.42
Alternatively you can fly it using a 3x, but it shows the price of 240€.

EDIT: out of WAW, on a different alliance you might get to the same place for 212€ using just a 3x.

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Old Jan 15, 2012, 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
Fare 1: Carrier XX AAA to BBB €35.81
Fare 2: Carrier YY AMS to DXB €29.00
Fare 3: Carrier YY DXB to AMS €29.00

Total per passenger €190.42
Or alternatively....

fly on our favorite alliance from a European capital to another location in the persian gulf for $203.23 ai.
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 10:13 am
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very complicated this trick-it-thread really, newbies have hardly no chance of understanding the greek you guys are using. the Canals to the Strait deal was somewhat clear (if you manage to find a 1X or 3X, which is not my case yet), but the rest could be Chinese or Greek to a lot of us. We can choose between the two.
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by DrDive
Or alternatively....

fly on our favorite alliance from a European capital to another location in the persian gulf for $203.23 ai.
Yeap, I mentioned it 10 days ago. It is the best deal I think.
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by nas6034
If one wanted to learn to figure out the jargon, what page shall one start reading from this thread? 1100 pages is craziness.
So is flying C1-C2 for $155 RT ai. It is a simple effort/reward calculation. If you want to save $50 on your next flight to LON, PM me, If you want to save $500 per flight, read the darn thing and prepare to spend 100+ hours on it
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
Won't help you.

ITA will not even recognize this one. Since ITA downgraded their service level to accomodate less than Expert Users via MATRIX 2 , most super deals are found outside ITA.
For those of us using systematic approaches, can you provide hints as to where to focus our efforts in re-tooling for a matrix1-less world?
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by navi-c
For those of us using systematic approaches, can you provide hints as to where to focus our efforts in re-tooling for a matrix1-less world?
I'm curious about this as well. I've decoded a good number of 3x's, but as the best deals are seeming to be booking-engine dependent, my successes have decreased. Would greatly appreciate any hints about booking engines (even hints requiring decoding), either here or via PM!
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 12:12 pm
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 12:17 pm
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^Seems the best deals thus far have been using a 1X which of course before anyone asks has to be flown in order for the desired effect to occur.

Of course i'm not as adept at the game as many and i've developed a list of workable 3X's which should be tip #1 for any newbie...take notes and lots of them...but from what i've been reading as of late there appears to be a greater number of 1X's in play, no?

Again, i'm not one of the fortunate few who have the time (at the moment) to spend hours upon hours tolling through various combinations but i've definitly learned to pay attention to the principles which make the working combos that I know effective. Tip #2 would be to pay attention to the why and how of the basic (and in some cases no longer fully effective) 3X's in order to better build on tip #1.

Those C1-C2 spring fares look amazing so thats my focus at the moment as/when i can get online and play around.

Keep the good ones coming guys/gals as there is never a shortage of entertainment and knowledge to be had on here....even if it is 16k posts long ^
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 12:36 pm
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Learn about the systems you're using, experiment wildly, be methodical, take good notes, and reflect on what you find for underlying principles. The same approaches that brought success on ITA do so elsewhere. I wonder with some of these posts if people are taking to heart jteezy's post from awhile back on what is available. Being systematic doesn't just mean running brute force ITA searches. These new deals are incredible, but if you've been thorough you should already have a number of C1-C2 and C2-C1 rt's in the $270-330 range (no 1x needed)

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Old Jan 15, 2012, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by nas6034
If one wanted to learn to figure out the jargon, what page shall one start reading from this thread? 1100 pages is craziness.
Here is your starting point:
http://milepoint.com/forums/threads/trick-it-faq.1278/

Start there, then play with fares like the rest of us.

Note:
If you don't like the idea of playing with fares.. that the strange language of riddles is confusing and mean... and you just want someone PM you with the exact instructions on how to get from A to B for $152, then I'm afraid this "tricking" funny business isn't for you. Pay the normal fare and move on.
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 12:59 pm
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Don't know if it was mentioned here before, but there is nice C2-C3 sushi deal. OJ for 253$ AI. Wide availability until June.
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by xmurphy
Don't know if it was mentioned here before, but there is nice C2-C3 sushi deal. OJ for 253$ AI. Wide availability until June.
Are you sure it's $s and not €s?
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by jms_uk
Are you sure it's $s and not €s?
yes, I'm. Know about € deal. But this is another carrier (but same alliance)
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