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Feb 2, 2012, 6:17 pm

#1486

mattolo

Join Date: Apr 2011

Location: LAX

Programs: SPG Gold, HH Gold

Posts: 280

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaceLaw2012

::fingers crossed:: haven't received the email yet. Still shows as valid on Vayama & AC. When did you book your tix? Maybe they're working backwards on booking times?

Same here. No cancellation email and still valid on Vayama and AC.

Feb 2, 2012, 6:31 pm

#1487

FrankTalk

Join Date: Jul 2009

Programs: M&M

Posts: 997

Please, please post here:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[FARE GONE] AC/SN NYC-BRU $232 ai on Vayama

Feb 2, 2012, 6:52 pm

#1488

darksidesith

Join Date: Oct 2008

Location: Mishawaka, IN

Programs: Hilton Silver, Best West Gold, United Gold

Posts: 310

I believe that the site who posted the fare and booked it such as Vayama should eat the money. I do not believe in hoarding fares either. Do you want TLC do have another weekly show?

Feb 2, 2012, 6:53 pm

#1489

jpdx

Moderator: Mileage Run, InterContinental Hotels

Join Date: May 2004

Posts: 5,918

(1) Please post all discussion pertaining to the canceled AC/SN USA-BRU fare in this thread.

(2) There is a lot of OT discussion on the last pages. Some posts will be deleted or moved.

(3) Please refrain from name calling and insulting other posters. Tempers run high during "mistake" fares, but let's remain civil. You may wish to review your posts and edit inappropriate language.

Thank you!
--jpdx, MR Moderator

Feb 2, 2012, 8:08 pm

#1490

gary_nj

Join Date: Apr 2005

Location: CMH, sometimes AVP, formerly down the Shore

Programs: UA 1K/3MM, AA EXP/3MM, DL MM, former fan of TWA

Posts: 1,854

AA has a $76 base fare filed for BUD-PHL, good for origination into June. Sat night minimum, three month maximum.

Feb 2, 2012, 8:34 pm

#1491

flyerred

Join Date: Jan 2011

Posts: 269

Can anyone confirm that the below fare is undumpable because the fare rules prohibit an additional segment outside of ST? C1-C2

DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER KL/AF/AZ/OK/DL/AS/QX
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY REGULAR APEX/APEX
NONREFUNDABLE/SUPER/SPECIAL APEX/ROUND TRIP INSTANT
PURCHASE/INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE/SUPER/SPECIAL
INSTANT PURCHASE/REGULAR EXCURSION/SECOND LEVEL SUPER/
SPECIAL APEX/3RD LEVEL ADVANCE PURCHASE/INSTANT
PURCHASE 2ND LEVEL/INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF 2ND LEVEL/
INSTANT PURCHASE 3RD LEVEL/ADVANCE PURCHASE 2ND LEVEL/
5TH LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/SUPER INSTANT PURCHASE 2ND
LEVEL/4TH LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER
KL/AF/AZ/OK/DL/AS/QX IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
ATL.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER DL/KL/AF IN
RULE 4444 IN TARIFF
ATDLR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
TAPVR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.

Last edited by flyerred; Feb 2, 2012 at 10:08 pm

Feb 3, 2012, 2:09 am

#1492

FrankTalk

Join Date: Jul 2009

Programs: M&M

Posts: 997

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary_nj

AA has a $76 base fare filed for BUD-PHL, good for origination into June. Sat night minimum, three month maximum.

I wouldn't book anything in/out of BUD right now on OW. MA finally flipped the bird.

Feb 3, 2012, 6:16 am

#1493

nomad1974

Join Date: May 2005

Location: BRU

Programs: A3/Gold, BA/Gold + other less precious metals

Posts: 2,641

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankTalk

I wouldn't book anything in/out of BUD right now on OW. MA finally flipped the bird.

So that means that people will stop travelling to/from BUD?!

Feb 3, 2012, 6:49 am

#1494

FrankTalk

Join Date: Jul 2009

Programs: M&M

Posts: 997

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomad1974

So that means that people will stop travelling to/from BUD?!

No but AA might have difficulties honoring those tickets - not to mention you might not be able to book it without a MA leg which is kind of... pointless after they kick the bucket. A quick chekck shows that both MA and MA codeshares are still in all GDS's. All I'm sayin'...

Feb 3, 2012, 7:14 am

#1495

janetdoe

Join Date: Jul 2009

Location: DFW

Programs: AS, BA, AA

Posts: 3,670

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomad1974

So that means that people will stop travelling to/from BUD?!

No, but it is possible that both AA and MA will stop having service to BUD, and you would be stuck with a 'credit' on a bankrupt airline that cannot or will not refund your money.

http://hasbrouck.org/articles/bankruptcy.html
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...1964%2C1509159
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=validating+carrier+bankrupt

Feb 3, 2012, 8:40 am

#1496

Deltahater

Join Date: Aug 2004

Location: SAT

Programs: AA EXP BA Gold, TK Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AS 100K, QR PLT, SAS Gold, IHG Spire, AMR

Posts: 5,898

What he is saying is that Malev stopped flying today.

Feb 3, 2012, 9:50 am

#1497

IAkH

Join Date: Dec 2009

Location: IAH ↔ PAR

Posts: 777

IAH-C2 for $260ai

NOT the BRU fare

Last edited by IAkH; Feb 3, 2012 at 10:13 am

Feb 3, 2012, 9:51 am

#1498

Deltahater

Join Date: Aug 2004

Location: SAT

Programs: AA EXP BA Gold, TK Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AS 100K, QR PLT, SAS Gold, IHG Spire, AMR

Posts: 5,898

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyerred

I am not convinced that fare is undumpable, but the experts can surely correct me when they return from their sabbatical...

Feb 3, 2012, 10:15 am

#1499

gary_nj

Join Date: Apr 2005

Location: CMH, sometimes AVP, formerly down the Shore

Programs: UA 1K/3MM, AA EXP/3MM, DL MM, former fan of TWA

Posts: 1,854

Quote:

Originally Posted by janetdoe

I've had several tickets to/from BUD during the last six months or so as AA has planned/started/stopped/replanned their nonstop service from JFK. Typical rebooking for me has been on AA codeshares operated by BA through LHR.